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Old 04-09-2014, 01:15 AM   #1 
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Blue+Black Bettas

Has anyone bred a black and blue betta? Like both that are the same color? I'm curious about that, should I decide to breed both Michonne and Shorty.
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Haven't bred them, but have seen them. They're absolutely stunning
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:14 AM   #3 
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I have 2 of them, one is a boy and one is a girl. I see a lot of the marble kind, reds, whites (with black), but haven't see any photos of bettas that were bred that are black and blue.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:03 PM   #4 
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Do you mean a blackish royal blue?

There are 3 colors on the top layer, also known as iridescent colors; turquoise (blueish green), steel blue and royal blue. Genetically a royal blue is a combination of turquoise and steel blue. Therefore if you breed royal blue to royal blue, you will get all three irid colors. The percentage is uncertain, depending which genetic makeup survived. While the shade depends on the presence of other genes such as black.

BTW the black head is not caused by black genes.
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BTW the black head is not caused by black genes.
what causes it then? would you happen to know?
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Do you mean a blackish royal blue?

There are 3 colors on the top layer, also known as iridescent colors; turquoise (blueish green), steel blue and royal blue. Genetically a royal blue is a combination of turquoise and steel blue. Therefore if you breed royal blue to royal blue, you will get all three irid colors. The percentage is uncertain, depending which genetic makeup survived. While the shade depends on the presence of other genes such as black.




The colors that I mentioned are black and blue with the light colors to them. With Michonne, she has some red to her, it's her natural color.
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what causes it then? would you happen to know?
Not sure. Never found any literature about it. But since it was never discussed in genetics, I thus assume it has nothing to do with color genetics.

Physically dark shades of irids can be assumed to have black genes. But I often had light shades of irids which still had black heads . . . . sometimes the heads are more brown than black. IBC, who classifies colors and patterns with scrutiny, never fusses about dark heads.

atb - the picture looks as if the male is turquoise while the female is royal blue. Therefore you should have all irid colors, more turquoise than the other two.
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Okay, are turquoise popular in the betta community?
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What do you mean "popular" . . . as in favored?
I don't know. Different areas favor different colors/patterns. It's more of personal preference. All I know is that irid colors are common BUT a solid irid, without any red nor black genes are hard to maintain.
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Okay, thanks for your help, indjo. Favored is what I meant.
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