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Old 05-03-2010, 05:37 PM   #1 
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2 for 2 (dead)

Here is my story (I'll keep it short)

Went to the local pet store and picked up a small tank, gravel, water treatment, food, heater and food. When I got home (too late), I realized I did everything wrong. I went back and purchased a 5 gallon tank. I treated the water (tap water)and did the whole water temp acclimation (set heater and water was 76-78) with the fish. The fish lasted about 6 hours before he died.

The next day I went to another store and spoke to a few employees and told them my story. They said "you are doing everything right" so we chalked that one up as a sick fish. I bought a few more things (decorations and fake plants), I exchanged the heater for a better one and another fish. He looked very healthy at home but that only lasted a few hours. Soon he was very lethargic and staying on top. When I got home today, he was dead and so where 4 apple snails I bought yesterday.

I tested the water with some of those strips and everything looks fine (are they not accurate?).

Water was at 78 degrees... Not sure what to do!

I refuse to buy another fish until this is figured out and my daughters are heartbroken. Please help.

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Old 05-03-2010, 05:47 PM   #2 
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Sorry you are having so much trouble......

What kind of dechlorinator are you using and how much?
Any other additives used

IMO it is something about your water or a contamination of some type for the fish and snails to die that fast

How did you clean everything before you put it all together and how long was it set up before you put livestock in it.

Even with the strips...can you post the numbers for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH if you have them for both your tank water and source water.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:52 PM   #3 
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll provide as much info as I have now.

I used Aqueon. it said to use 1 teaspoon per gallon. No other additives were used.

The tank was only set up for a few hours before I added the first fish. A day or so by the time I added the snails and second fish.

I cleaned everything with warm water (no soap).

I'll test the water later today and post a picture of the results.

Thanks again.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:56 PM   #4 
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I agree with OFL. Something funky is lurking in your water and it's either coming from something in your tank, or from the water source itself. Where do you get your water? You should test your water before and after you condition it to see if it's high in ammonia or anything which your conditioner may or may not mask, or neutralize, or whatever. Maybe it's got some hard metals in it.

Does your tank have a hood? If not, were any aerosols sprayed near, or over the tank that could have found their way in?

Lastly, I'm going to assume you washed things before you placed them in the tank - including the gravel. If so, did you wash with soap? That's a no no, right there, because it leaves harmful residue on anything it touches. Hot water only. EDIT - well you've ruled this out, thankfully!

Otherwise, I really don't know. It sounds like you've been doing everything properly.

EDIT - I'd also like to mention that no, the strips aren't usually too accurate. I'm not sure how the pet stores test customer's water, but they might be able to give a more accurate reading. And for free, usually. If you're going to invest in water testing supplies, I'd go with a liquid testing kit such as the API master kit. They're much more reliable.

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Old 05-03-2010, 05:56 PM   #5 
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well the testing strips are very inaccurate and will basically lie to you. other than that i have no other idea and my advice it just to test the water for pneumonia nitrite nitrate levels at your local pet store...maybe he will do the test for no charge or may be he will ask for a very little amount of pay.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:00 PM   #6 
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Just trying to rule every thing out here....

Anything on your hand like lotion, soap, perfume etc.....
All items in the tank aquarium items....nothing from around the house or yard
Gravel rinsed well..sometimes this can get contaminated at the shop
Any funny or odd smells
Nothing accidentally fell in the tank
No chemicals close by

You may want to tear the tank down and clean well with vinegar......
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:15 PM   #7 
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Your table looks very well-polished and dust-free. Any chance you use Pledge on it?
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:19 PM   #8 
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Your table looks very well-polished and dust-free. Any chance you use Pledge on it?
That was before, I was very careful when setting it up (no sprays or anything like that).

Pic of the test strip will be up soon
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:26 PM   #9 
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Sorry for the bad pictures. I should have used a different background.

Before the dip


after 30 seconds






after 60 seconds

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I could be blind, but I don't see any test for ammonia which is probably the most important.
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