Bettas

[MrChampagne]

Bought some amonia tester today and amonia detox to bring down levels if to high..no signs of violece yet..Put in Oak bark th other day, Oak bark actually lowers PH level but not much..Moss is okay...Aquascaping..look into it..added a live plant from the pet store and they both love it..water is crystal too..Oh, bought some Ivory white gravel today too..My Fantail is not a Coi or a Commet goldfish..he will only grow to about 6 in or so..it is suggested to use a twenty gallon for easier maintenence of the tank..or amonia levels will rise....I've taken care of that..

[Betta Slave]

Rrrgh. Are you absolutely SURE that oak bark is okay for tanks??? My friend put it in her tanks a little while ago, washed, rinsed, etc, and within a few hours, her fish died.
And, I know I'm echoing everyone else, but we need to get this point across to you (I hope that didn't sound rude, because it wasn't meant to be-)
Goldfish are coldwater fish. Bettas are tropical, warm water fish. Therefore, goldfish need colder water. Bettas need warmer water. If you put your water too warm for the goldfish, it will/could stress out and die. If you put your water too cold for the betta, it could stress out and die. It probably WOULD stress out and die. Either way, in both of these situations, both the goldfish and betta would be stressed and unhappy. Heck, bettas and goldfish aren't even supposed to live together... Still, a bettas living with a six inch goldfish is NOT a good scenario... How big is your betta? 1-3 inches? The goldfish would be really big compared to it. Bigger fish generally pick on and eat smaller fish.

[MrChampagne]

the oak has been in there for a couple of days...it's not poison oak...and i'm not talking about the stringy moss in trees, i'm talking about the green stuff that grows on bark..my tank is clean & no, the goldfish is not 6 inches yet. The day I see a goldfish eat a betta I'll be impressed.

[MrChampagne]

& no, the betta is king of the tank..it's tricky feeding them..I'll feed the betta first, then the goldfish..although since the betta lives mostly at the top he usually gets the goldfishs's food first..unless I time it right.. Although he does like the Oak bark cave...He's claimed it as his :)

[Betta Slave]

It's possible.
I know your goldfish isn't six inches yet, but he will be soon... and goldfish are pretty tough to kill.
I'm glad to hear they're getting along though... just continue to keep an eye on them.

[Jennyinurmouth]

Still I have to put it this way:
Maybe it is because I am OCD and the just don't mix,
point blank, they don't look good together, they don't live good together, they just weren't meant to live together.
I don't appriciate you telling me to look up aquascaping when appearently, in a smart aleck tone, inferring that I don't know what I am talking about.
Here is the equivalent of high temps to a goldfish in comparison to a human.
You putting him in tropical tempurature, is like making a human being stay out in the humid sun all day.
There is a reason we are trying to get the point across. Stress causes immune systems to crash, when that happens, your fish is more liely to get sick or die.
It might live, but it won't thrive.
If you drop the temp for the goldfish, then the betta gets stressed.
You are NOT able to supply the IDEAL conditions for either of the fish to live when together in the same tank.
Yes they might swim around and live,
but that doesn't mean it is pleasant.
They might not nip eachothers fins, it depends on a betta's personality.
I have a male that won't hurt a thing, other than a male betta,
I have a male that attacks everything that moves.
I am going to jump off of my soapbox now.
hy bother you will just repeat irrelevant facts about what you are doing to make up for the fact that it isn't good for the fish.
I buy fish as pets, and try to mimick thier natural habitat as closely as possible.
I like my fish to be perfectly happy, not experiments.
That's just me though.

[Zenandra]

I would love to see pictures of this betta/goldfish "Utopia"

[doggyhog]

Are you listening to what the people here are saying???

Goldfish and bettas are NOT suitable tank mates.

Bettas need a heater, goldfish prefer cooler water.
Bettas like still water, goldfish should have a massive filtration system.
IMO, the MINIMUM size for a fancy goldfish is 20 gallons.
Goldfish have been known to eat bettas fins and bettas sometimes attack them.

You get the point yet???

[Zenandra]

No I don't think he is listening...

[Alienbetta1]

Listen Ive seen a 3inch Goldfish eat a 2inch barb!It was my Goldfish by the way.Save your Betta before it DIES!