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Old 08-04-2013, 10:46 PM   #17381 
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Well there can be bad dogs ;p I met one! Watched it properly trained and all. Was not tested for temperament.. It wasn't the dog's fault though. Still a human's. A thoughtless moronic backyard breeder. Dog should have been put down a few times due to it's behavior... AND IT WAS TRAINED TO BE A SERVICE DOG! No real service trains dogs with that temperament. I saw it's doom when it was 4 months old. In the eyes... And the way the dog held himself. It was right there, so obvious, and dangerous.

Actually services usually only choose one out of five pups, sometimes saying no to a whole litter. Hence how I knew the service was bogus.
The human still plays a vital role in creating the dog bad. That role is either breeding or even just a simple 1 time spank can forever ruin a dog. No dog is bad. Absolutely none. Humans make them bad.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:25 AM   #17382 
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Friends are an awesome thing to have, but seriously... Mine seem to annoy the mess outta me.

Today, friend 1 called me and said she wanted to spend the night at my house so i spent the next hour and a half hurriedly cleaning to make it look nice. After cleaning, I texted her and said she could come over whenever and said said ok. Two hours pass and she still not there so I'm getting worried. I text her again asking where she was to which she responds, "I decided to stay home. I have some stuff to order online for my dorm, and I have to reschedule my Spanish class." Like seriously, she could have at least told me stupid reason or not.

Friend 2 always calls me stupid for loving bettas and the guys I have relationships with. I thought we were going to get into an argument the last time we were in PetSmart together... And when we're all in a group, and I'm looking for advice on an ex that tries to talk to me, she always gets angry, starts yelling at me in front of everyone, and belittles me. When anyone brings up pets or boys, she gets like this.

Friend 3 is just straight up mean. He calls everyone bad names to their face and talks more mess behind their backs, and he and friend 4 just makes planning group activities difficult. Like it's his way or no way.

Friend 4 likes to plan to do something with everyone, but then, at the last minute, drops out to do something else, then complains that she never gets to hang out with us.

Friend 1 and 2 used to never be like how they are now. I don't know whether to stay in contact with them once I move or not. But that's my rant... I feel somewhat better now.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:00 AM   #17383 
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And this is why I avoid friends. They are a pain in the seat of your pants.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:41 AM   #17384 
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Fishy, and it confuses me WHY a "service" picks from THAT breeder. Sorry... LET THE SOONTOBE OWNER pick the pup. NO ONE does that. I outright asked a REAL service dog trainer and they scoffed at the idiocy that was the other "trainer". And also mentioned the fact the lady told me "the dogs are TRAINED to be aggressive". Uh... No... I grew up around all sorts of people who needed dogs and their dogs don't look at you, smell you, or care you are standing an inch away. They are trained to be GOOD dogs.

But that poor boy was a rotten one of the bunch. German Shepherd. Which with them and bully breeds it is recommended to actually have them evaluated mentally and even genetically to ensure the dog's disposition.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:22 PM   #17385 
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None of the German Shepherds we have purchased from actual reputable breeders have been crazy. Nike is a little more reactive around other dogs but she is perfectly fine to be handed off to strangers to get shown and when we have taken her to the vet and left her there for stitches the vet has gushed about how she is such a good girl..

People who just decide to breed two dogs that have never been proven or tested in anything are those ones creating unstable dogs.

The only crazy shepherd we have had, was the one my mum got from people who went to our school who decided to breed their female.

Nearly all that litter died really early on from quite horrific things. I think our Shadow was one of the last to go and that was only from bloat which is quite common in larger breeds.

No matter that she was never hit in her life, Shadow would always skitter away and skulk up to you like she had been beaten. In the backyard she would run away from you and you had to go down and bring her up because she wouldn't come when you called her up.

I think it was only the fact we socialised her well and took her everywhere with us that she ended up being quite a good dog.

I always feel sad when I see one and two year old German Shepherds in shelters because they have hit that rebellious teenager stage and you just know that they have no chance unless they get rescued by someone who knows what they are doing.

Particularly when they are the result of a poorly planned breeding and may not have the stable temperament to even make adoption worthwhile.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:50 PM   #17386 
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I still stand by what I believe and see everyday. No dog is bad. The humans make them bad. Be it breeding or how they're raised. I work beside with and for dogs everyday. I devoted the rest of my life to educating people on canine body language and how to give them the respect and care they deserve.

Dogs come to me and countless other positive reinforcement trainers labeled as "dangerous". We rehab them in the most positive ways possible. A good 90-100% of their "dangerous" behaviors change for the better. If they need a home, we get REALLY picky on who they go to and they're homes get random check ups and evaluations(atleast the ones I rehome do). I've also spent countless hours with owners who thought they were doing the right thing about seeing that trainer who guaranteed their dog would be the most perfect and obedient dog. Those "trainers" taught and used harmful/dangerous methods. Some even go as far as to abuse the dogs. Again, these dogs are damaged, their owners are at their wits end. Many of these owners put these dogs to sleep. Some have hope and dearly love their dogs. And they search for people like me.

There never will be bad dogs. Only bad people. People need to stop blaming the dog and look at what their doing and recognize that it is wrong. If you're dog is biting someone, either you're not respecting your dog or you did a bad job picking his breeder. And even if you picked the wrong breeder, simply educating yourself on canine body language goes a LONG way.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:56 PM   #17387 
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I think there are some dogs that are born mentally unsound and thus is inherently dangerous to humans/other animals. But a responsible breeder recognises this and has the dog humanely destroyed to prevent future issues.

However the concept of 'badness' is basically a human one. Same with cruelty.

Animals aren't bad or cruel, they are just what they are, which is animals.

Sometimes I wish pets such as dogs and cats were more of a luxury/scarcity as then maybe they would be better treated and cared for than a lot of them are presently.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:16 PM   #17388 
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LBF that dog sure was mentally unsound. I saw it right away. Why no one else did... Until three people were attacked (one being me, showing the lady a flyer, another I don't know, and the other banned the dog forever from the store was when he bit a girl scanning the dog food!) did anyone pay attention. I outright told my boss if the dog was allowed in there while I worked, I quit. Because they too had an incident, so they KNOW why I would "toss in the rag".

Even the look of the dog was off... German shepherds are very distinct in how they look. He was... Off. Legs too long, head too large, nose too long - not a real breeder's masterwork. If she relinquishes the dog he is doomed to death. If he weren't doomed to death he would have to be in a one person home, no dogs or cats, and preferably on a farm or acreage, where he can have a job mentally and physically.

I almost think that... Only actual registered breeders should be allowed, anyone found to purposely breed should be fined.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #17389 
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Last year when I switched from Rogers to Bell.. Well, plainly putting guess what was not properly cancelled? Not any fault of mine, of course. It was a pay and talk phone, which Rogers gave me a call to tell me they could give me a NON CONTRACT version of pay and talk which makes it easier to pay, you don't rush for minute cards, etc. Sure, why not?

WHY?!

I owed them 148 something, which explains the numerous blocked calls - some of which came at 4 a.m (but PROVE it was the collections, when it's blocked), and when I finally got through to someone after the stupid automated message, they said I owed 148 something PLUS interest - which BTW, interest is actually ILLEGAL to force upon unless it is Rogers themselves who has interest building on it.

Which they didn't. Talked to a rep, and she said it was still 148 something, not anything more. The collections tried saying "25% a day not paid", which again is bogus and their way to get people's money.

So if any of you have collections call, directly contact the person who you supposedly owe, if you still have to pay, see if you can pay THEM directly not some moronic bogus "extra fee" bull. Or have them make notes to tell their collections to stop being stupid. And don't take that bull from them. At all. Ever. This is why I am a tad paranoid via moneywise... Because they always lie.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:55 AM   #17390 
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You know what I hate?? When people give advice and tell people not to do something because of how much work, effort, time, and money it takes when they have never dont that thing!
God in order to say stuff like that you need to actually have done it to know reading on the Internet doesn't allow you to get the hand on expierience and what not to go telling people what to do and what not to do and why you shouldn't do it. Frustrates me to high heavens because no matter how much you know you don actually know anything because you learn best and get the most expierience when you do it! S leave that topic to people who are going to be supportive and know what they are doing and how to help the person!
Sorry I just had to get that out some place.
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