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Old 08-14-2010, 12:11 AM   #1 
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Update on Bubba

For those of you who know, Bubba my 3 year old VT has been sick since the end of June.
One of the doctors I work with contacted a "fish veterinarian" so to say.
I sent some pictures along and I got some brief sorta answers. I have not had a chance to talk to my doc to clarify everything but I got some short notes jotted down. I think I might have confused him though.
He told me to up the AQ salt from 1 tsp to 2 tsp per gallon.
To debride the fuzzy area's and apply iodine.
60% water change every 3 days. (I'm sticking with my 100% every other day scrub downs to keep those spores from piling up.)
Monitor water levels.
The only thing I might have as a diagnosis is the two words "water mold" ahaha. Ha. I'll get better answers later on when I talk my Dr. and clarify her vague notes.

On that note, the large part on the top of his head fell off already.
And he started to eat again for me the other day.

These photos were taken late Wednesday evening when he was half way asleep.

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Old 08-14-2010, 12:24 AM   #2 
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Aww poor fishy, but its good he's starting to eat. :]
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:34 AM   #3 
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Yeah, my poor old man. :( He only didn't eat for 3 days, so not the worst case of it all, but it was not his usual piggy self.
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:44 PM   #4 
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Water mold-that would fit......I read about it not long ago and will see if I can find that article for you.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:27 PM   #5 
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That would be awesome. I debrided all the small spots just a moment ago I just have the large one left. I'll wait until tomorrow as he's really stressed. I'll anesthetize him for that one and while I apply the iodine. I did 100% change though because all the pieces I pulled off and fell to the bottom. I wanted to get it all out and give him a new clean start. Upped the salt content too.
Current prognosis though is poor. He's eating, but he looks miserable. :(
I'm going to give him everything I can though. :)


Edit: I found this article. I'm go to hold off on their recommended medications though. I wish I had figured this all out sooner. :( Poor Bubba fish.

http://www.nationalfishpharm.com/art...infection.html

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Old 08-14-2010, 06:54 PM   #6 
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im sorry your fish is sick hope he gets better
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:30 PM   #7 
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Although that site has some really good information...you have to remember that their goal is to sell you something..."their medications"....they rarely recommend salt treatment or natural treatment and even go as far as stating that salt is bad as a treatment choice

This is an article in the FAMA Jan 2010 by Mark A. Mitchell, DVM, Ph.D
on water molds
Most common seen in immunocompromised fish by a opportunists organisms Saprolegnia a water mold, over treatment of antibiotic, aging fish.

S/S- gray/white cottony appearance on the body and/or fins, lethargic, wasting appearance.

Antibiotic can make it worse

Treatment aquarium salt-5tlb/gal-this will help draw the fluid out of the water mold, shrinking them..it doesn't say how long to treat however.....and to be careful not to cause salt toxicosis
Malachite green is also recommend if the salt treatment fails.

I would think this would be more of a dip and not long term
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:36 PM   #8 
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O.o Haha, I was just thinking how long it took for me get the 5 teaspoons to dissolve in my 2.5 gallon. 5 tablespoons in a gallon! Haha, I would think that must be a dip. I found many other articles, one recommending what the Veterinarian had said, one salt dips, one malachite green, and one saying eythromyacin. I think I butchered that medication.
I also saw one that was talking about koi and it said to debride it an put a waterproof antibiotic cream om it. Wrangling a betta is hard enough, nevermind a koi.
I wish I would have found all of this earlier though. Atleast now I know what it looks like, though I honestly feel it's a secondary infection to whatever he had before.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:45 PM   #9 
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Sorry about your boy!
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