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Old 02-09-2015, 11:02 PM   #1 
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Betta in trouble!

Guys, I've had this betta for about a month now, it had been going good up until now. Just to note; this betta is not the same one as I posted about previously.

He had been acting kind of weird for a few days but I just noticed today that his left pectoral fin is clamped to his body. I thought the fin was ripped off but I think I can still see it. And he has silver on and under his gills, and silver on the tips on his ventral fins, though you can't see them in the images. And it looks like his fins got a little tore up in the past day. Also, I don't see anything wrong with the other fish right now.

I currently have the listed treatments on hand: (but not used any yet)
MELAFIX
Jungle Fungus Clear fizz tabs

note:
He's flaring his gills because the overhead light is on and he sees his reflection, this light is off most of the time.

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Housing
What size is your tank?
10 gallons

What temperature is your tank?
78 degress F.

Does your tank have a filter?
yes

Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
none other than water filter

Is your tank heated?
yes

What tank mates does your betta fish live with?
2 neon tetras, 1 ghost shrimp, and 1 type of catfish, sorry i forgot the name, he's relatively small and harmless.

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
Omega One Color Micro Pellets

How often do you feed your betta fish?
twice a day

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
about once a week

What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
about 25% a week, 50% about once a month

What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?
Seachem Prime and aquarium salt

Water Parameters:
A strip test showed pH is about 7.2, and don't know about the others.

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
Silver on and under gills, clamped pectoral fin

How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
Laying around against tank and darting around

When did you start noticing the symptoms?
A few days ago

Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Not yet, waiting on advice
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:07 PM   #2 
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Is your guy swimming OK? Betta use their pectoral fins to position themselves in the water. Can he move alright or is he swimming erratically?
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:13 PM   #3 
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Is your guy swimming OK? Betta use their pectoral fins to position themselves in the water. Can he move alright or is he swimming erratically?
He seems to have enough swimming control to get by, but is sometimes running into stuff and darting around afterwards. He definitely has no control over his left pectoral fin.

Edit: he's laying slanted inside of a decoration right now. I feel so bad.

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Old 02-09-2015, 11:44 PM   #4 
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Edit: he's laying slanted inside of a decoration right now. I feel so bad.
So weird, he now has control over his left pectoral fin again after exiting a tight fit of the decoration. I quickly fed him, he went back into it afterwards, which is still weird because he never goes into this decoration, nor does he try to hide in tight places. I still believe something is wrong with him.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:45 PM   #5 
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You shouldn't be adding Aquarium Salt for more than 10 days, it can cause problems with the organs.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:52 PM   #6 
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You shouldn't be adding Aquarium Salt for more than 10 days, it can cause problems with the organs.
This depends on dosage.

1TBSP for 5gallons is a safe dose to use regularly. The dose we recommend for medicinal use at 1tsp per gallon should not be used for more than 10 days.
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Old 02-10-2015, 12:02 AM   #7 
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Oh ok thanks for clarifying that Greenapp1es. Oh and don't use melafix!
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:19 PM   #8 
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Things are turning for the worse, he's unable to flare his gills now, I'm desperate for answers. And his scales under his head are gone, it's just white.

Last night, I did a 99% water change. And if anyone is wondering, I have a water changing setup that avoids temperature differences so I don't shock the fish.

I'm thinking that it could be velvet, I took some pictures with the flash on, maybe someone could confirm this.

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Old 02-11-2015, 10:40 PM   #9 
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Hard to tell. It looks like there might be a little bit of "dust" on that first picture - but I'm not seeing it in the others. He's a light colored guy though, so that might make it harder to spot.

He definitely looks clamped though - something is bothering him. Given his circumstance I'd say treat for velvet given the first picture - unless someone else has other ideas.

Is your heater adjustable? If so temporarily upping the temperature should speed up the ich lifecycle. Look for Seachem Cupramine, treat with that if you can find it. Note - it can't be dosed with prime or other water conditioners, and can give false positives on ammonia readings. When you need to add/change water, get a separate jug or bucket, treat with dechlorinator and let it sit for at least 1 h. Also cut back on feeding a bit to reduce ammonia accumulation while treating.
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:09 PM   #10 
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My heater is not adjustable. And I just noticed that my catfish's scales are also falling off his underside. I'll try to get treatments tomorrow.
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