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Old 08-31-2010, 01:30 PM   #11 
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okay i see:) !! yes i was reading about that the male will eat the unhelathy fry or the fry that have no chance.


Is there a way to determine if a spawn can produce deformities?
Even if the males history has never had any deformed fry and the female has never had any deformed brothers or sister fry, is there still a chance of getting a deformed fry?


How does a deformed fry come as, what im trying to say is how can it happen even if th male and female come from two excellent generations?
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:50 PM   #12 
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Sometimes it is water quality and water temp related and even with good genetic they can still have deformities

It is also weak fry and this can be caused (not always) due to too warm of water that causes the eggs to develop and hatch too fast and again water quality can weaken fry as well......

Too cool water can delay growth and development

Just like with general growth and development-poor water quality and temp can cause developmental issues.

More than just genetic play a role....water quality and water temp are also big factors...not to mention hardness and pH with some species of tropical fish......
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:56 PM   #13 
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okay, 1 more question, how long does it take for healthy fry to hatch. This mean when they are just right how long does it take for them to hatch?
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Mine usually hatch in 24-28 hours with 80F water....this can vary with water hardness and pH IME

I have had a drop in water temp and the eggs did not hatch for 32h and weaker than normal
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Aww poor fry:/ but did they survive?
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:34 PM   #16 
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Yes, and now breeders...and breeding their offspring........
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:51 PM   #17 
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Wow i was wondering can a brother and sister fry breed successfully without having some deformed fry? like if i breed two unknow VT's and they have their fry then the fry get older and i sell all but two and they are male and female from the same batch, can i breed them? or is there consequences?
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Location: Canada, eh?
If you continually breed sibling pairs (if you breed a sibling pair then breed their offspring that are sibling then breed their offspring that are sibling, etc, etc) yes, there will be some deformities. I don't really know how long it will take to kick in though.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:15 PM   #19 
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i thought so.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:34 PM   #20 
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That is correct....I breed father X daughter, mother X son, brother X sister, aunts, uncles, half brother and sister, cousins on and on and on........I usually add in fresh blood by the 3rd to 4th generation and start over and over and over.....lol......deformities usually don't come with close related fish per se or you don't really see that much as compared to non-related fish...but I do think that some stupid is.....lol......and some loss of natural instinct too......IMO/E
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