Betta Fish Care  
Go Back   Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care > Betta Fish Diseases and Emergencies
Check out the eBook Betta Fish Care Made Easy
betta fish
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-03-2010, 05:36 AM   #11 
Barchinski
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Thanks....

I woke up this morning to see my betta cornering himself again and I noticed his color is kind of fading. He is a blue betta and now since the new meds the skin of him seems a bit yellowish. Mind you the API Fungus Cure Powder turned the water green so this might be offsetting his skin color a bit. It says to use the meds for 48 hours, then change 25% of water and use a second dosage of the powder for another 48 hours. I'm guessing after this 4 days he should make a come around...but I don't know.

If he doesn't I'm wondering if I should go through with another dose of the meds....

I did notice that his white cotton growth on his underbelly turned a bit red in the middle of it yesterday - kind of like a blood blister or something. Not sure if this is normal or what.
Barchinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 07:01 PM   #12 
Barchinski
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Hi

So after treating my betta for the fungus infection with the API green powder solution it seems I have diagnosed a new issue. I believe after doing lots of ready and my betta's color beginning to disappear and a copper like tint to come across his body...i think he has velvet. This sucksssssss!!!!! He was a little bit more active a few days ago and kinda nipping on food, but today he didn't even bother and is less movable.

Now I just did a 25% water change with new fresh treated water mixed with 75% of the API treated water. I setup my 1.5 gallon again and put the filter back on. Temp is up to about 81 right now and betta is quarantined in his cup with the 100% APR treated water. I was going to wait a bit until the tank takes proper setup and then maybe add betta back in. Now i can't figure out how to get the photos and video uploaded so if someone could please email me at andrew.bartynski@gmail.com I can send you the files and you can examine yourself. I would like to figure out what steps to take now since I think its velvet, but I know the amount of stress this little guy is in.

Please HELP guys!!!!!

Thanks!
Barchinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 04:30 PM   #13 
Barchinski
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Unhappy

NO ONE IS OUT THERE!!!!! He is now floating at the top of surface and fighting for each breath as his gills are opening/closing very rapidly. I treated the tank with Coppersafe last night and will be performing a 50% water change in a few minutes and adding a bit more of coppersafe to compensate for what I am taken out within the 50% water change. I'm hoping this little guy pulls through bc right now he looks very bad.

Will this Coppersafe kick in soon..?

Water temp are at 81-83 and water has been treated with AQ Salt, Ammonia solution, and water conditioner. Let me know if this Coppersafe with begin to make a turn around or if this fish is on his last breaths....

PLEASE SOMEONE RESPOND!!!!

Thanks!
Barchinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 05:02 PM   #14 
Oldfishlady
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: USA
When a fish immune response is compromised due to poor water quality and along with multi medications/treatments/chemical additives-sudden shift in water conditions with a water change in neglected environment.....often this will stress/shock the fish to a point of a poor prognosis.

With the added diagnosis of velvet and added coppersafe and other chemicals this fish is really stressed-personally I would do a clean dechlorinated water treatment, lower the water level so he doesn't have to struggle to reach air, no filter, no lights, quiet dark place to recover and nothing else after 48h of the coppersafe...he may be able to help himself if its not too late......

-untreated velvet can be fatal- but over treatment with harsh chemicals also can be fatal....if you can nip the velvet and give him conditions so that his immune response can kick in........he may have a chance so he can help himself........

It sounds like you have tried really hard to help your Betta and I wish your Betta a speedy recovery.....
Oldfishlady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 02:44 PM   #15 
Barchinski
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Unhappy

OldFishLady

Thanks for that quick response yesterday. I am finally getting a minute to write back after trying a few things.

Well i ended up doing about 50% new clean treated water and added a bit more coppersafe to compensate for the 50%loss of existing treated water. I turned filter off and have no lights on in the tank. The heater is on and temps are around 84. He has just been sitting behind the filter for the past day...struggling for each breath. When he sees or hears me near tank he does try to wiggle a bit to say hi, but you can tell he's stressed.

Now, I was going to let the water stay like it is until tomorrow before I do another water change...does this make sense? Or should I do a 100% water change tonight? Would it help if I added some aq salt in his tank each day or once is enough? Just searching for answers because I haven't seen any signs of him getting better from any treatments.

Anyone's advice is def a big help and I thank everyone's responses. I am just so determined to bring this little fishy back to his normal self.
Barchinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 01:06 AM   #16 
FuulieQ
Member
 
FuulieQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Don't add more salt unless you change his water. It sounds like if he has warm, clean water, you're doing the best you can, and it's just up to him to fight through it.

I don't really know about the water change, but I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to stress him, and I'm not sure what the instructions are for coppersafe.
FuulieQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 05:43 PM   #17 
Barchinski
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Unhappy FINALLY PICTURES for viewing...Check out this little guy and let me know ur thoughts!

So

It's been about 2 days now and the my little guy is still with us. He def is more alert and I even got him to eat 3 days in a row now. I have not changed the water for two days because I did not wanna put more stress on this little guy after all the meds I was adding to the water. I am prepping about 60% water right now to change out in about 2 hours once it reaching proper temps. I finally got some pictures uploaded to my site and please view and let me know what you think of the WHITE growth and dis-coloration in the fins.

I am hoping to just let him have his own immune system kick in and see if by keeping clean water and the temps right, he will come around.

PLEASE bring all the comments because they are much appreciated.

http://gallery.me.com/andrew.bartynski#100411

!!!
Barchinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 06:32 PM   #18 
Adastra
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
I rather wish you could have managed to get methylene blue and do water changes rather than go with an antibiotic treatment--it seems like all it did was weaken him and cause more secondary infections. Pet store employees can be so pesky.

Truthfully I'm not sure whether the white growth is fungus or bacteria--usually sapro is a little more gray, and usually bacteria doesn't have strands of fluff that are quite that fluffy looking. He also seems to be bloated--how much did you feed him?

It seems like he would benefit from a medication break, especially since he seems to be improving--I would keep the water as clean as possible with salt or methylene blue if you can find it. Give him a lot of darkness and quiet so that he can rest.
Adastra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 07:33 PM   #19 
Oldfishlady
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: USA
Good job and great news...glad to hear he is doing better-I would really work on those daily water changes to keep the bacteria levels low.......you may want to start with a salt treatment now to help with what looks to be a bacterial or fungal infection

Aquarium salt 1tsp/gal along with 100% daily water changes for 10 days

I like to pre-mix the salt in a 1gal jug to make water changes and dosage easier-he needs to stay in the saline solution 24/7X10days along with daily water changes
I would also feed small amount several times a day-if you have access to any live foods like mosquito larva that would help him a lot or even some fresh crushed garlic juice on his food
I use fresh/frozen shrimp and smash it together with fresh crushed garlic and blanched spinach-it a great balanced high protein food when you don't have live....
Oldfishlady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 09:52 PM   #20 
wallywestisthebest333
Member
 
wallywestisthebest333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Currently East Coast
A great thing to remember about this forum is that if you ever feel you need to (like your thread is getting no attention) you can get in touch with knowledgeable people by clicking on their avatar or username (this takes you to their profile) then Contacting them through Private Message. =]

So have you done any 100% changes so far?

Last edited by wallywestisthebest333; 10-13-2010 at 09:56 PM.
wallywestisthebest333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3/5 clamped fins? AlexXx Betta Fish Care 24 11-29-2009 08:17 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.