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Old 10-16-2010, 11:09 AM   #1 
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Question Bob, the invisible betta, blows bubble nests

so i'm cycling my 10 gallon, doing the fishless style, adding pure ammonia. but apparently it's not entirely fishless. bubble nests keep poping up. so i can only assume that i have a new betta, whom i've named Bob. he is a very celophane vt, to the point where he's see thru!

well, really, i can't figure out if the bubble nests are alright, is it ok that they're there? is it just because of the ammonia i've been adding? i bought it at Lowe's, and as far as i can tell it's pure, but i don't know the concentration. i'm kind of concerned that it's a bad sign that there's bubbles. i'm worried that it means that there's something wrong with the water...

any ideas? i've added some pics so yall can see what i mean :)

oh, and here's my latest water readings from last night:

temp: 82*
pH: 7.6
ammonia: 4.0 (after adding more ammonia. it had previously been 2.0)
nitrite: 5.0ppm+ (the test was neon magenta...not even on the scale >.<)
nitrate: 80-160ppm (yea, super high, bright fire-truck red. i'm plannin on doing a 50% wc later)

there's nothing in my tank except a Whisper 10i filter & a topfin 50 watt heater and gravel mixed with activflora substrate.


here's the bubbles:




and for comparison, here's Sam, the actually live betta, and one of his bubble nests (after it's been partly destroyed by a wc)


thanks for any help!!!! :D
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:11 PM   #2 
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From what I can see, those are just bubble nests! Male bettas make those :) They arent bad or harmful at all, and the betta has a blast making them.
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:20 PM   #3 
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When you bought the ammonia, did you shake it to make sure that it didn't bubble? When you shake ammonia and it makes bubbles, it is not pure and shouldn't be used.

Hmmm, your readings are odd. Techincally you shouldn't have ammonia or nitrites if you have nitrates. Try cutting back on how much ammonia you are dosing the tank with, and maybe the tank will cycle quickly
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:53 PM   #4 
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well.....it makes bubbles when i shake it.....and i've been researching and it turns out i have the totally wrong type of ammonia (with surfacants) so i get to start all over now...................FML.

any clue how i can properly tear the tank down and be sure i get it totally clean again? also, will i need to replace the filter media, since its been in the water with the surfacants???
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Old 10-16-2010, 07:10 PM   #5 
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I would replace the filter media. (Cartridge and such) Tear down the tank as usual. Hot water, perhaps a bit of bleach, and a good rinse :3 Make sure it's all clean before adding back in everything.
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Old 10-16-2010, 07:56 PM   #6 
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alright, thanks! yea, i figured i'd have to replace the little carbon pack and foam, but just checkin. :)

i think i'll probably use vinegar instead of bleach, don't wanna mix bleach and ammonia, with my luck that'd turn out even worse....
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Old 10-16-2010, 08:01 PM   #7 
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Vinegar is a great natural cleaner. I always use it to clean my tanks. :)
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Old 10-16-2010, 08:48 PM   #8 
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yea, i used it to clean the tank when it was brown with dirt from sitting in my garage for 5 years and it worked great, hopefully it'll be able to remove any soap remnants >.<
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:37 PM   #9 
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Good luck! Also you might wanna let it bake in the sun a few days! It might help get rid of the surfactants! =]
edit: I'm stupid it's fall. don't listen to me. *headdesk*
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:54 PM   #10 
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