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Old 10-21-2010, 04:47 AM   #1 
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question about aquarium kit from walmart

Hi
I'm practically new to betta care and aquarium stuff
i tried to read as much as i can so i know stuff before even buying it.

though today i bought a betta from petsmart i can't resist that specific betta so bought by pure impulse (pathetic) so kinda end up buying a 5g aquarium kit from walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tetra-5-Ga...undle/13228131
and some accessories

though mine the heater was bought seperately but it still the same model

i already have set up the the aquarium this afternoon ( I used tap water w/ aqua safe) filter, heater, additional thermometer, and gravel.

i haven't put in the betta and the plants ( said in the manual i need to wait for 24 hours while keeping the pump/filter running and heater).

question are

1. is the pump/filter be too strong for the betta? (its name is Aqua Tech power filter model 5 -15)
2. after putting aqua safe how long should i wait for the stuff to work?
3.and should i wait exactly 24hours before putting inthe plants and betta? i kinda feel sorry for the lil guy stuck in a small container ><(my self is claustrophobic)
4. i got 5 mollies from a friend and according the store its ok for betta to include them?
5. I bought stuff so hastily can i still in corporate cycling( i basically know its important for amonia/nitrate balancing. but not too indepth in knowledge)
6. "tetra safe start" is it good for my situation??
7.and lastly i found a big bottle of seems like a pre cycled water is that good??

thank you very much in advance
-Jin & and lil blue/red guy("betta"still need a good name for him)

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:16 AM   #2 
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1. is the pump/filter be too strong for the betta? (its name is Aqua Tech power filter model 5 -15)

I think I have the same, or very similar pump. It was much too strong for my Betta. I had to "baffle" it. For me, I had to use both a sponge and the plastic bottle method. The sponge helped, but the current was still too strong and pushed the poor guy across the tank!

2. after putting aqua safe how long should i wait for the stuff to work?

You mean the dechlorinator? I use my water right away, it says it works immediately. Though, I think some people here let their water sit overnight.


3.and should i wait exactly 24hours before putting inthe plants and betta? i kinda feel sorry for the lil guy stuck in a small container ><(my self is claustrophobic)

At least 24 hours. And if you want to do a "fishless cycle" it will be weeks. Just make sure you do the proper water changes and he should be fine. Are the plants live? If so they will be a good help for water quality.


4. i got 5 mollies from a friend and according the store its ok for betta to include them?

No. Not only would your Betta be stressed by the Mollies, I think your tank would be overstocked with that many fish. - Other people here can help you more though, but from what I have read this would be a bad idea.

5. I bought stuff so hastily can i still in corporate cycling( i basically know its important for amonia/nitrate balancing. but not too indepth in knowledge)

If your willing to let your tank sit for several weeks without the fish and plants then yes. Otherwise you will have to do regular water changes. You should read the stickied thread on cycling.

6. "tetra safe start" is it good for my situation??

I was thinking about using it, though I don't know anything much about it other than the reviews I have seen online.

7.and lastly i found a big bottle of seems like a pre cycled water is that good??

Um, maybe.. I've read though that the water actually doesn't have much of the bacteria in it. The filter and surfaces in the tank (like the tank walls, the gravel, the decorations, etc.) are where the bacteria really collects.

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I hope I am a small help. Other people here will be able to help you much more though!
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:41 PM   #3 
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thanks for the reply it really helps

as for the filter i found out this morning when i'm tinkering on it you can actually adjust the flow of water. by lifting the tube the higher the tube the slower the flow.

and after reading different discussion in other forums seemslike the tetra safe start is my best bet.

well then T minus 10 hours for adding betta and mollies (still researching on it on how can i put them in or atleast how can i keep them
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:05 PM   #4 
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I wouldnt keep the mollies with the betta, not enough room really.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:07 PM   #5 
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I believe mollies are a slightly brackish fish, as well? Personally, I would try ghost shrimp if you wanted something interesting in addition to your betta, though he should be just as happy on his own.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:58 PM   #6 
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I have no idea what Tetra Safe start is, sorry...

Water conditioner works right away, though!

As for cycling, you can cycle with your fish in the tank, using your fish as a source of ammonia. It is a bit risky though, you'll have to monitor the levels closely and be prepared to make small & frequent water changes. If you want to go for it, feel free to ask more questions! I've done a fish-in cycling before, so I can hopefully give you some advice.

Btw, you should not put mollkies into that tank! Mollies are brackish fish (meaning they like a bit of salt in their water), and I'm pretty sure that 10 gallons is too small for them. I think they need 30 gallons.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:10 PM   #7 
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cycle the tank asap... do not put the mollies with the betta they are aggressive fish... if youd like put the mollies in the tank to start the cycle they are hardy fish and will be able to withstand the cycle, however fishless cycle is preferred. Ive used the tetra safe start. It did not work for me but i have heard success stories about it working instantly. the betta will be fine in his confined space for a little while. Just make sure the tank is cycled and there are no other fish instead check into the african dwarf frog or ghost shrimp... both very cool
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:38 PM   #8 
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I agree with everyone else, don't add the mollies to tank. It's too small. You'd likely end up with sick, dead fish. Give them back to your friend.

Everything else sounds peachy. :)
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:44 PM   #9 
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Welcome to the forum~

Everyone has pretty much completely covered what you wanted to know.

do you have a heater for the little guy?

since you have your betta, and no place to keep him for several weeks, do you plan on doing a fish in cycle? If so, you'll be fine so long as you keep up with your water changes. ^-^

Do you have pics? :D Lol, pictures are always welcome at this forum
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:46 PM   #10 
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thank you so much everyone for the warm welcome and this site is a really great help for me who is just starting out!!.

i manage to find some one who can adopt the five bright orange mollies (too bad i find it a good contrast against the dark blue red betta)

as for the tank its sitting for almost 24hours like the instruction said.

though i returned the tetra thermometer to walmart ( the temp was just sitting on 74F and thinking an adjustable 1 is much better in the long run so i bought a new 1 that you could adjust the temperature your self from petsmart its a (marineland 50watt stealth shatter proof heater and fully submersible) it says in the box" up to 15 gallon" will it be alright to put it in a 5 gallon tank? i can 't seem to find something smaller for this except for smallest which is just up to 3 gallon.

oh and i bought api 5 in 1 test strips and the tetra safe start.
so i'm prepared to change the water everyday if theres an imbalance on the aquarium water.

1. for the new question i was reading on the back of the safe start it saids whole bottle for up to 30gallons. do i pour everything even its just five gallon or the i just our 1/6th of the bottle. just wanna make sure because they did not put any other instruction if you have a smaller tank.

2. i'm mostlikely gonna use the tetra safestart . do i put in the betta with it? i'm prepared for the daily monitoring of the chemical balance of the water and changing it as needed.

thank you again guys and ladies for the BIG BIG Help!
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