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Old 12-23-2010, 01:37 AM   #31 
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true :) I'm slowly building my tanks from fake to real plants, and I love the way they look (even though it takes a bit more effort to keep them alive).
btw; it doesn't take alot of plants to fill a tank; just time to let them grow (some can be cut and replanted so you have a bunch of the same plant.)
And alot of the plants you can get hardly need any maintence; about the same as any garden would, but without weeds to pull. (algae is enough for weeds.) :P


And on a unrelated note.
Someone told me to get a small crab or 2 to clean the gravel/soil of a planted tank; after the plants are more than sprouts. Since you cant really sift and clean the gravel after there's plants in there.
What do you think?
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:44 AM   #32 
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I'd be kinda worried about the crabs eating the plants...

You should clean it, actually. In any cycled tank you should have a gravel vacume so you can clean the gravel. If you go with sand you could always just use a turkey baster. I personally would be tempted to do a large sorority... I'm addicted XD. You'll also need a water testing kit, so when you cycle you can make sure that the levels stay stable.

With the plants you're ganna need some bright lighting for a tank that large. maybe roughly 80-100 watts, but you could do more! That tank will look beautiful if it is planted, and will be well worth it!
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:24 AM   #33 
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If you are planning on having enough plants that you won't have open areas of gravel to vacuum perhaps you should look into a NPT (naturally planted tank). They are tricky in their own rights, but really rewarding once they are done.

Here are a few links to get your started: NPT overview and picture step-by-step.

If this seems interesting to you, I encourage you to google "El natural aquariums" or "Naturally Planted Tanks." There is a forum that discusses the process. There is also a book on how to do it by Diana Walstad.

You'd probably want shrimp and snails over a crab. Most crabs being sold in pet stores are truly semi-aquatic and need places to rest outside of water. I believe they are also brackish which doesn't do well with a lot of other species of fish. I have ghost and red cherry shrimp in my tanks and they do a great job of breaking down decaying plant matter and scavenging uneaten food. They also eat a little algae from time to time. I also have nerite snails which are great for eating algae, and ramshorn snails which are great for both dying plant matter and some types of algae.

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:08 PM   #34 
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Ya; I've been researching plants and how to plant them and everything.

I keep changing my mind about what I'm putting in the tank. Angels and bettas are my favorite fish. So for the 45G I'm thinking 2 honey gourmai, 3 angelfish, and a zebra oto. And since I know for a fact that a betta - angel pairing would be disasterous I'm going to get a second tank; a 10G with 5 bleeding heart tetras, a crowntail betta, a sunburst platy, and 2 nerite snails. I made sure that even when full grown they would all have enough room and get along.

I also settled with easy to grow, high light required, plants; though I'm still trying to figure out how many watts/gallon high light is. Only going to sparsely plant them too; since I plan to let them grow quite big if I can, and I can always add more later. :P

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Old 12-24-2010, 10:53 AM   #35 
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In a ten gallon, you might want to rethink your stocking. Personally I disagree with the tetras. I've tried having fast schooling fish in a ten gallon with a betta. The school stressed my fish, and now that they're fully grown, while they fit fine in the ten gallon, I feel they need a lot more room now. Plus, I'm not sure how well one platy will be by his/herself. You could go with 5 or so platies and a betta :)
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:31 PM   #36 
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I had specificly picked the platy because it could be alone. :P
And honestly; I think my dad pulled through again; mustve been a fish guy at one point.
"Oh I think I have a 10 or 15 gallon kickin around somewhere."
If its a 15G I'll probably keep the tetras; but yea, I read somewhere that more than 1 school is bad for a betta.
Is there any other pretty betta friendly fish that can be by its lonesome or just a pair?
I really like discus; but they are HUGE and schooling. :P
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:33 PM   #37 
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Platies can be in groups of 3, they're pretty.

corie cats are in groups of 3, they can be adorable

In a ten gallon, you could divide and have two bettas ;)
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personally, catfish of any kind scare the bejubus outta me; not sure why.

lol 2 betta.. hm..
they wouldnt try and kill each other through the screenie thing?
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:50 PM   #39 
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I could go with my Dracula and Alucard idea if I did this. A red betta and a black betta. :)

And if it's a 15G can I divide it into 3?

Alucard, Dracula, and Death
which are all Castelvania characters.

OH or or the YRP idea
a green and blue betta
a green or yellow betta
and a red betta
Have to be female tho. o.o
Yuna, Rikku, Paine.

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lol, yeah, you could do that, though I don't think having males and females in a same tank (even divided) is a good idea. There have been members who had females and males in a divided tank, and came home to a less than ideal situation.
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