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Old 01-02-2011, 11:21 PM   #11 
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A super black is actually a new development. Instead of being based on blue to get black (melano) super black uses copper to achieve the black. Super black bettas lack inridescent in the body (good thing) but they may have a tiny amount of copper in the fins, most of the time it's not noticeable.

When it comes to black you need to get blacks based on what gene the black is controlled by. Melanos can't be bred to a black lace because two different genes control the black coloring.

Is this why some blacks have red irids? Have you heard anything about breeding super black females?

I received two super black females from Bangleanbettas and he guaranteed me that they were fertile.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:25 PM   #12 
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I also own a pair of Black Devils...a red based black. Melano is a bit more difficult to produce because the females can be infertile.

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Old 01-02-2011, 11:34 PM   #13 
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Here is a copper based black:



As you can see they deserve the name Super Black.

My super black pair:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRsSQRGDwaI
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:35 PM   #14 
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Black devils have red and blue in their fins no?
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:38 PM   #15 
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This is a different breeder. But he won't show the pics of the parents either.

You can see all the black fry in the background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyXM3..._order&list=UL
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:39 PM   #16 
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I think so beat.

I tend to try to look at fish from a standard view. To me "red devils" are multicolors or bi-colors or blacks with red wash depending on how you want to look at it.

Super blacks are an intriguing notion but I still want to see how it is achieved exactly. It's pretty well documented about how Melano black came about... I'm trying to remember what the basis for black lace is.


ETA.. those all look like Black lace to me.. they all had the blue in between the rays except for the last video.. that fish had red wash so I assume its the copper based black.

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Old 01-02-2011, 11:44 PM   #17 
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Here is a copper based black:



As you can see they deserve the name Super Black.
You're right, you can barely see the copper.

Hopefully Martinsmommy will chime in. I know she has bred melanos, but I wonder if she has ever had a spawn that was 100% melano.
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I think so beat.

I tend to try to look at fish from a standard view. To me "red devils" are multicolors or bi-colors or blacks with red wash depending on how you want to look at it.

Super blacks are an intriguing notion but I still want to see how it is achieved exactly. It's pretty well documented about how Melano black came about... I'm trying to remember what the basis for black lace is.
I agree with you on that one...To me black devils are pretty much multis.

I would also like to know more on how the super blacks came about ...
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:50 PM   #19 
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I think so beat.


Super blacks are an intriguing notion but I still want to see how it is achieved exactly. It's pretty well documented about how Melano black came about... I'm trying to remember what the basis for black lace is.


ETA.. those all look like Black lace to me.. they all had the blue in between the rays except for the last video.. that fish had red wash so I assume its the copper based black.
Yeah, I'm thinking with a spawn that size that maybe two or three are true super blacks. It's funny because you can inquire about any other color and people will share their findings openly with you. But there is something about this super black that remains elusive.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:59 PM   #20 
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I think you are right Beat.

As pretty as this fish is, it's still a multi.
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