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Old 01-02-2011, 11:03 PM   #21 
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When it comes down to it Black Devil and Red Devil are just names.. I could call the fish in my avatar blue frog if I wanted to and sell his fry as such as long as they had a little blue on them somewhere.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:07 PM   #22 
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Anything labeled "devil" is basicly a fish with wash in the fins. Like 1fish2fish said you can name a strain whatever you want but unless you're a well known breeder strain names are pointless.

I'll have to do some digging...but I know Chaba will tell me what creates a super black.

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Old 01-02-2011, 11:10 PM   #23 
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I really like the black color in the body of that fish...I wonder if breeders could work with that strain and get rid of the red (and sometimes blue) in the finnage.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:12 PM   #24 
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LOL. So true. But you have to give the breeders credit, they are creative. Just look at "Batman". The name alone made me curious. And he went for $400.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:19 PM   #25 
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I really like the black color in the body of that fish...I wonder if breeders could work with that strain and get rid of the red (and sometimes blue) in the finnage.

I have heard that red is extremely hard to breed out. If you think about it, eliminating the red and blue in the fins would give you a super black. Which is probably what the breeder was going for to begin with.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:27 PM   #26 
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Here's my knowledge on the black colors:

Melano: Iridescent based black
Super black: copper based black
Black devil: red based black

Lace and Ice..not sure.

But each black carries different genes...a super black and a devil won't get you black.

*Does anyone else notice this is this forums first thread about genetics hehe*
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:30 PM   #27 
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Here's my knowledge on the black colors:

Melano: Iridescent based black
Super black: copper based black
Black devil: red based black

Lace and Ice..not sure.

But each black carries different genes...a super black and a devil won't get you black.

*Does anyone else notice this is this forums first thread about genetics hehe*
Lace are marble based blacks I believe...
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:31 PM   #28 
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That's what i was thinking. Then there's Ice and Orchid.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:33 PM   #29 
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ARGGGGHH.... I can't stand how secretive the IBC is. Trying to find back issues of flare or articles on genetics is basically impossible. Member's shouldn't have to purchase the TA library just to read the articles and I have no clue where to find old issues of FLARE!... there's got to be some information on breeding blacks.. why's it got to be so darn hard to locate.

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Anyways... I can't really find any more info on black genetics besides what's been posted.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:34 PM   #30 
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Confirmed marble on the Lace.

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All fish are from the same line.

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Once upon a time, I had a strain called " crystal" which was a black strain that threw some white bettas as well. This strain comes from marbles, and will throw white crystals as well as possibly a variety of marbled bettas.
@1fish2fish I know right! We get access to everything else but we have to pay for the TA?

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