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Old 01-12-2011, 12:33 PM   #1 
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Emergency!!!!! No fins left!!!! Filter accident!!!!!!!!! Heeeeeeellllllllllpppppppp

Help him!!! Quasimodo was ground up by a filter and now has no fins!!!! I know this sometimes happens in fin rot, please help!!!! He's in his cup so he can get air and not have to swim so much and it's floating in his tank for heat. I got him a new filter and heater, the heater is turned to 84 and I'm watching the tank to see if that's accurate. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:36 PM   #2 
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Oh, and I put some BettaMix in the cup if that helps. I dare not post pictures, but his caudal fin is missing and the others are mostly gone. ANY AND ALL ADVICE DESIRED! He can't die!!!!
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:49 PM   #3 
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Is his pectoral fins still there?
How much of his fins are gone, I mean there is a point they can't really grow back and also a point where they still can.
I'm so sorry that happened to your betta. :(
Here is a link that describes their fins and what they are used for, etc:
http://bettacare101.com/anatomy/
If that helps......?

I do know some good things that help them heal are indian almond leaves,
and of course very clean water.
Low level water but in a very long tank is good if they can't swim well at all.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:49 PM   #4 
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Poor fella.....

Good that you have him QT and floating in the heated tank.....

I would pre-mix some treatment water and start 100% daily water changes for the next 10 days

Get a 1gal jug and fill with like temp dechlorinated water and add aquarium salt 1tsp/gal-if you have tannins to add all the better....either naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf (10-12 crushed/gal) or Indian almond leaf or blackwater extract or decaf green tea...add one of these to steep for at least an hour before use-the longer they steep the more tannins will be released the darker the water the better the Betta will like it....shake well before use and use this treatment water for the 100% daily water changes in the QT container floating in the heated tank.

Make sure and equalize the water temp between the treatment water and the QT fish water before use to prevent temp related shock issues

Diet is also important to promote healing-a good varied diet high protein-live or frozen works the best...frequent small meals....

I had a Betta get its fins eaten by a marble crayfish and I had new growth within a few days with this treatment...it took about a month for full re-growth and lots of water changes

Good luck and keep us posted....
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best of luck :c
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:16 PM   #6 
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Is his pectoral fins still there?
How much of his fins are gone, I mean there is a point they can't really grow back and also a point where they still can.
I'm so sorry that happened to your betta. :(
Here is a link that describes their fins and what they are used for, etc:
http://bettacare101.com/anatomy/
If that helps......?

I do know some good things that help them heal are indian almond leaves,
and of course very clean water.
Low level water but in a very long tank is good if they can't swim well at all.
THANK YOU!! I will check on his pectorals. I didn't notice him rising for air, but it hasn't been long and I was in tears. I'll check.


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Poor fella.....

Good that you have him QT and floating in the heated tank.....

I would pre-mix some treatment water and start 100% daily water changes for the next 10 days

Get a 1gal jug and fill with like temp dechlorinated water and add aquarium salt 1tsp/gal-if you have tannins to add all the better....either naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf (10-12 crushed/gal) or Indian almond leaf or blackwater extract or decaf green tea...add one of these to steep for at least an hour before use-the longer they steep the more tannins will be released the darker the water the better the Betta will like it....shake well before use and use this treatment water for the 100% daily water changes in the QT container floating in the heated tank.

Make sure and equalize the water temp between the treatment water and the QT fish water before use to prevent temp related shock issues

Diet is also important to promote healing-a good varied diet high protein-live or frozen works the best...frequent small meals....

I had a Betta get its fins eaten by a marble crayfish and I had new growth within a few days with this treatment...it took about a month for full re-growth and lots of water changes

Good luck and keep us posted....

10 DAYS? So there's hope? I already add salt to my tank to keep back bacterial infection, although I did put a lower concentration in his 10G. He hasn't been eating for a few days, but bless him, he tried and spat it out. I bought him Hikori Biogold and he spits it out, but I'm going to try to feed him that since I can better control the amount. His tank is brand new, so I'll use that as his treatment water since it's already warm. I'm going to go turn out the lights ASAP to keep him calm.

There's a fish at a pet store that has more extensive caudal fin damage due to fin rot, but his other fins are beautiful and he darts around when I pick him up. I think he can still regrow them, with proper care. I still have his 2.5 G, so I'm going to go ahead and prep that for a large QT tank if he gets better. Poor dear, I think he's in shock.

What are tannins? How many tea bags per gallon? Is there any specific way to steep them (1 bag/cup, add cup to 1 gallon)? I'm worried about him floating in the cup- it moves and bumps into the sides and ammonia can build up so quickly.


THANK YOU, everyone!!! I only wish I could express my gratitude. I love this fish.
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Is 84* too high?

Oh i hope Quasimodo will recover
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Old 01-12-2011, 02:14 PM   #8 
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No...

I keep my tank at around 80F-82F normally...

Don't worry it's the same with people you have the people who like it cooler and the people who like it warmer. Fish I feel are the same to an extent.

When people are sick or injured we warm them up.

Since he's injured... 84F is very good.

Don't worry if he's still alive now he should be fine.
His fins may not be as pretty as they were buuuut like... 90% as nice as they were.
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Is his pectoral fins still there?
How much of his fins are gone, I mean there is a point they can't really grow back and also a point where they still can.
I'm so sorry that happened to your betta. :(
Here is a link that describes their fins and what they are used for, etc:
http://bettacare101.com/anatomy/
If that helps......?

I do know some good things that help them heal are indian almond leaves,
and of course very clean water.
Low level water but in a very long tank is good if they can't swim well at all.

Brace yourself, I have pictures!

He has them! At one point, he was in the middle of the cup, which means he moved. He alternates between leaning on the side and staying upright. I darkened the room as much as I could and I'm going to look for a curtain or something I can place around his tank to create a shadow. I am going to post 2 pictures so you guys can see, though you probably don't want to.

Should I keep him the cup or a gallon? Or in the cup for 10 days and then the gallon until he can be freed into the 10 G? I put 1 tsp of salt in a gallon in his 2.5G tank instead of the normal 1/2 tsp/gal. I'm waiting for the gallon to heat up, so I can do whichever is best.

Oh Lord, I have to clean the filter.... Is there anyway to baracade the filter so he can't reach it?
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Don't worry it's the same with people you have the people who like it cooler and the people who like it warmer. Fish I feel are the same to an extent.

When people are sick or injured we warm them up.

Since he's injured... 84F is very good.

Don't worry if he's still alive now he should be fine.
His fins may not be as pretty as they were buuuut like... 90% as nice as they were.

Yeah, my sister had him before I did and she said he liked warmer water and I had read 84 was the high end of the betta temp. range, so I set it for that to see how he does.

And his fins weren't that nice to begin with, due to poor water conditions and cool temperatures he faced earlier in life. I already knew that his beauty is in his coloration and personality rather than the span of his fins and length of his rays. I actually kind of hope they grow back to be better than they were. Not that it really matters.

On heaters....I just bought this one this morning around 11AM and set it to 80, then 84, but the tank hasn't even reached 80 yet. I thought maybe it just needed time...maybe it heats slowly so as not to shock the fish. But I don't want to have something super hot in his tank so I am hesitant to set the temperature higher.

I'm really concerned because he was sick to begin with, so now he has to heal severe injuries and an unknown illness. I have an adorable video of him flaring at his reflection a few minutes before the incident.

This happened at about 12:10 PM, so it's been just over 2 hours.
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