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Old 01-15-2011, 01:06 PM   #1 
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Question Breeding Wilds to Pet store ?

I have had this question on my mind for a while... Is it possible to breed a show/petstore betta to one of its wild counterparts? Would the betta be hardy or less hardy? How much finnage would be lost? What are the pro's and con's of this? and is it even possible. And I was thinking bubblenest builders not mouth brooders are crosses possible even and I heard they do it in Thailand for the plakats but only the fighters.
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Old 01-16-2011, 10:07 AM   #2 
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You have to realize that your talking about different species. It's not like breeding dogs to wolves (which is not a great idea BTW). It's more akin to breeding lions and tigers or horses and mules. Closely related but not the same species.

It is possible to cross some species of betta if they are in the same complex (for more info check out the IBC-SMP) but it is greatly frowned upon by most people. Many species of Betta are rare and even endangered because of loss of habitat in the wild. Diluting the gene pools of those species for the sake of experiment or hybridization is not an ethical goal to have.

For the more common wilds such as imbellis, smaragdina, splendens (there is a wild version of splendens) it is common to cross them with domesticated splendens. Crosses with imbellis and smaragdina are how the copper and dragon genes were introduced into domestic splendens. Even that is looked down upon by some breeders (why, I don't know.. I guess some breeders are just elitist).

As for finnage, cross a long fin with a wild and you'll probably see shortening of the fins which will have to be bred back to their desired lenght. Hardiness is really not a characteristic of wilds per se.. there are plenty of wilds that are extremely hard to keep unless you have perfect conditions. I don't think mixing wilds would make your strain any more or less hardy... that has more to do with how they are fed and raised and how the parents were raised as well.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:29 PM   #3 
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+1 1fish...you always get everything in your posts lol...

Don't really know why you'd really have a great reason to mix species, although look at the people who made Dragons and Coppers...but I read in an article they had a lot of difficulties with spawning the two species together.

Also, 1fish, mules are steril ;) ...horses and donkeys might be a better comparison.
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I understand that I just curious I would never bother to do that although I am interested in owning a pair of wilds to keep.
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I was thinking of buying one of Lindas imbellis to mix into my blues since that's how Victoria Parnells line started...just a thought.
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Also, 1fish, mules are steril ;) ...horses and donkeys might be a better comparison.
Derrr.. that's what I meant. My brain is totally fried apparently
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Im curious Mr. Vampire why would you do that, like what would the benefits be and such?
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:23 PM   #8 
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Derrr.. that's what I meant. My brain is totally fried apparently
Lol I understand that :) We all have those days, and you've been awful busy lately it seems.

Hmm...Mr Vamp...that sounds like an interesting project. Let us know how it goes if you attempt it.
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Im curious Mr. Vampire why would you do that, like what would the benefits be and such?
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Lol I understand that :) We all have those days, and you've been awful busy lately it seems.

Hmm...Mr Vamp...that sounds like an interesting project. Let us know how it goes if you attempt it.
It would be to take the blue dragon back to its roots......I love Victorias line so I want that kind of look. Ill email Linda and see if her pair spawned....they were close when I saw them.
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oh fun sounds like a great project please let us know if you attempt it and how it goes
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