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Old 01-19-2011, 10:57 PM   #11 
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I found this too. The ipond was banned in 2007, thank god!

"A TINY fish-tank that doubles as an iPod music speaker has outraged animal activists, who have dubbed it a "torture box".

The iPond, which is designed to resemble Apple Corp's best-selling iPod music player, is up to 15 times smaller than the minimum recommended tank size.

Melbourne-based chain store Pets Paradise is selling the $70 product at outlets across the city and it is proving such a hit that one city store has sold out and a suburban shop is down to its last two.

The RSPCA wants the iPond banned because it is too small to give fish adequate oxygen supplies, swimming room and a clean environment.

Melbourne Aquarium head curator Nick Kirby says the minimum tank size for a Siamese fighting fish, which Pets Paradise sells with the iPond, is 10 litres. The iPond tank - which is manufactured in the United States and is not associated with Apple - is just 850 millilitres.

The iPond allows owners to plug their MP3 player into it so music plays through a speaker built into the bottom of the small brick-shaped tank.

However, once small stones are placed in the bottom of the tank - which Pets Paradise staff recommend to "block the noise" for the fish's comfort - its water capacity shrinks to an intolerable 650 millilitres.

In the wild, Siamese fighting fish - which are native to Thailand and known as "the jewel of the Orient" for their spectacular colours - can be found in confined bodies of water such as large puddles, but they are far bigger than 650 millilitres.

To cope with living in the oxygen-poor water found in the the slow-running streams and rice paddies they often inhabit, the fish have developed a "labyrinth lung" in their head, which allows them to take in oxygen directly from the air as well as from the water via their gills. However, although they can live for up to three years in an appropriate tank, the Siamese fighting fish would not survive long in the "cruel" confines of an iPond, according to Animal Liberation Victoria's Noah Hannibal.

"There's no way anyone could look at this and think it's not cruel," he said. "The fish in this thing does not look like it has very long to live and it can barely move. Even if it does live it's not a life worth living . . . it's really just a torture box."

Studies showed that fish were social creatures that felt pain and boredom, he said.

While the music produced by the tank speaker is of a poor quality, acoustics expert Dr Jason Gedamke said there was no doubt the fish would hear it. "The speaker is directly coupled to the outside of the tank . . . It's the same as putting a fish tank on a speaker," he said.

Andrew Coram, an aquarist at Pets Wonderland in Prahran, said he advised customers that loud noise could kill fish. He said the most concerning issue raised by the iPond was the behaviour it encouraged.

"The big worry is the moral lesson . . . it blurs the lines between consumerism of inanimate objects and the consumerism of living things," he said. "This item markets the fish as disposable, like a fashion accessory . . . and ignores the fact it's a vertebrate with a brain and functioning nervous system."

Mr Coram said he was appalled by how unnatural the simulated environment was.

"Just because something has the ability to survive in a small, confined space doesn't mean it's natural," he said.

"These are hunting fish that dart around . . . any person who puts a fish in this product is condoning what can only be seen as a lingering death of the animal."

RSPCA Victoria president Hugh Wirth said that despite the fighting fish's ability to breathe air from the surface, the tank was far too small for it to receive adequate oxygen.

The small volume of water would hasten temperature change and this, combined with the fact that the iPond has been sold without advice on how to keep the fish warm during winter, meant the tropical fish would not live long, he said.

"If you're killing fish in the short term because of defects in management, that's cruelty," Mr Wirth said.

Dr Wirth said the iPond should be banned but did not expect Pets Paradise to co-operate. "Pets Paradise has had a chequered history with respect to selling live animals from their premises," he said.

Pets Paradise marketing manager Alyse Robertson said that while head office had received one complaint about the product and there had been some negative feedback at stores, staff had not noticed any fish dying.

"We don't sit down and actually have some big, high-fandangled, you know, research that we've done," she said.

Ms Robertson said it was "well known" that fighting fish liked confined spaces and that staff had observed the fish in regular tanks and in iPonds and "we saw absolutely no difference in their attitude".

However, she was concerned staff had not given advice on appropriate water temperature.

The fish bought by The Sunday Age has been given a good home courtesy of Animal Liberation Victoria.

- from The Sunday Age 16 Dec 07"
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:59 PM   #12 
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that first one isn't nearly as small-looking as you'd think. i'm not saying at all that it's good, but it's not as small as the betta on the pic makes it look. :/

that tri-one, my mom suggested to me last time she and i were at the pet store. >.> i looked at her and laughed. xD

i once saw a four gallon on Craigslist. divided six ways. it was a hex-thing, so they had a divider at each corner. >.>;
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:36 PM   #13 
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I saw this and was like whoa!

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Old 01-19-2011, 11:45 PM   #14 
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I want that one!!!!
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:50 PM   #15 
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I want this! This is so cool! I want a room with all 4 walls like this tank!

http://www.fish-keeper.net/worldofbe...php?t1423.html
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:03 AM   #16 
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When I was very young, I had that hex, more or less. I think I changed the water like MAYBE once a week, distilled, no conditioner, one, maybe? plant.
:,( I didnt know any better and neither did my rents...
I loved little Bob, a blue VT, and he lived on my little desk for 3 years.
My next little man, Steve, a green VT, lived for four and a half (WOW.) in the same tank, same conditions. I think he either died of old age or because we moved 6 hours away, which was stressful.
I feel bad :,c
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:03 AM   #17 
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The iPond was just a bad idea as anyone who knows anything could understand. It's mostly upsetting that it actually came to production. That they either never realized how bad it was or more probably knew they would still sell and profit and so decided to make it anyways just makes me sick.

And poor consumers who don't know enough about fish and want to start with a betta get tricked by these containers that claim to be great for bettas. I know I did.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:07 AM   #18 
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That is a nice setup.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:22 AM   #19 
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It isn't just the size of it..it is a speaker which means the Betta gets music aplified through the water.

And Betta are oh so sound sensitive. I could just see the little guy flaring up in agony...

Why the h*** would anyone want a "fish bowl" and a speaker all in one??? Sounds stupid and lazy some of these betta "bowls" I just dont get
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:46 AM   #20 
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Displaying a Betta in my Local pet store.
Ewwwww. This doesn't even look nice. It looks like a toilet set hanging on the wall.
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