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Old 01-31-2011, 07:18 PM   #1 
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Identify Sickness please?

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i think the right one is very sick. Think i should separate them? The one on the right has been staying on the gravels and resting on the bottom, with a big belly.. I fed it peas yesterday and now it actually swims a little better.

the one on the left. i barely got i don't know if its getting affected tho. its seems preety hyper..

Oh and I Normally Clean out their home 4-6 days ? trying to refill their tank waters with drinking water. And putting water conditioner. I have no heater. I use my lamp as their light.

Any tips to make them feel better?

things that i can make their water better, something i can buy on a local petstore?
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:26 PM   #2 
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That tank look pretty small... and they need heat. Light is not nearly as important as heat is.

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:36 PM   #3 
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Housing
What size is your tank? Not sure, but quite small
What temperature is your tank? dont know
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? dont know
Is your tank heated? no
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? 1

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Betta bits
How often do you feed your betta fish? 2-3 everyday

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? When water looks blurry
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 100? i dont seem to comfortable leaving all the dirty things around
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?
I put Betta water conditioner
Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:40 PM   #4 
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Well, judging by the pics, your tank is something around a divided 1 gallon, maybe less... it is recommended that your bettas be kept in 2 gallons or larger (2 gallons each), but if you still want to keep them in the 1 gal, you will need to do dailly 100% water changes every other day at least.

I'm guessing your tank is also too cold- you will need to buy a heater. The temperature should be around 80.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:44 PM   #5 
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So rather than them being cold. I need a bigger tank huh? I cant keep them on that one? or i would have to keep changing the water every other day? Tap water? or distilled? Then they'll be back to normal?

Btw. is it fine to face a mirror on the side of their tank?
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:47 PM   #6 
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Yes, a bigger tank would certainly make them happier... but keeping them in that tank would mean water changes every other day, and tap/distilled water doesn't matter as long as you've conditioned it... (I always put a bit of conditioner in distilled water just in case).

Heat is definitely a big one though. Bettas are not coldwater fish, and therefore need heaters. You can buy 1 gallon heaters at most pet-stores.

IMO, it would really just be easier to keep them in seperate heated 2 gallon tanks, but that's completely your choice.

And I usually only let my bettas flare at mirrors for a maximum of five minutes... too much flaring can cause split fins and make the betta stressed/tired...

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Old 01-31-2011, 07:52 PM   #7 
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Bettas require a heated tank; they need temperatures in the 76-82 range, and if their water is too cold they will not thrive. Each betta should have at least a gallon of water, and water should never be allowed to get dirty enough to appear cloudy.

Unless you know you have contaminated tap water, tap is better than distilled because distilling/filtering water can take out many of the nutrients fish need.

A mirror can be good exercise for them, but don't leave it up for more than a few minutes a day, they can get stressed if it's always there.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:58 PM   #8 
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alright, But my purple betta still on the bottom of the tank, trying to cover its self with the green gravel. I think its bloated or something but seem to be eating fine. Has a pine cone face. Faded color. Clamp fins. Should i fast him for like 2 or 3 days? see if the belly gets smaller?
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:00 PM   #9 
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Oh... if he's starting to pine cone up, sounds like he may have dropsy... in which case, I'd take the other male out of the tank (I'm not sure if dropsy can spread, but the other male's just going to stress him out anyway), put the other male in a jar or something (he looks healthy, just keep up with the waterchanges) and hope that your purple boy gets better...

Or do you mean... his coloring? I'm a bit confused.

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Old 01-31-2011, 08:01 PM   #10 
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What do you mean by pinecone face?

If he is bloated, then fasting him for a day or two will help. Clamped fins are a sign of illness or stress. Cold water makes fish lethargic and can also make them clamp their fins; if you get a heater that might solve the problem. If you heat the tank and he does not look/act normally you will want to look for other signs of disease.
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