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Old 02-02-2011, 04:51 PM   #11 
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your going to mash all this up? How much do you intend on giving each feed?
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:45 PM   #12 
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We can adress that later............ They are actually spawning right now!!

Ok.........well the male wrapped around the female once but was unsuccessful in getting any eggs out. From my understanding........this is natural to be take a few tries for the male. After the embrace, the female went into hiding for a little bit but is now back in the action. Does anyone know how long it will take for the next embrace??
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:24 PM   #13 
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...you need SMALL LIVE FOOD!!! I can sell you some microworms and vinegar eels.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:43 AM   #14 
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Fry food: crushed pellets and flakes won't do as first food. Newly hatched betta's are tiny ..... how small can you crush them? Further they easily foul up the water. Egg yolk also foul up water but is better (small enough to be eaten). Infusoria and other live foods are best.

By the time you read this, the spawning should be over so I won't answer your last question.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:36 AM   #15 
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Actually it isn't over....... Theres been 3 embraces in the last 7 hours and none of them have been successful...... The female is darker than ever and her veritical bars can been seen very easily. She has gained allot of wieght and I can see the little white thing (don't know what it's called) on her belly. She seems fully ready to breed. The male now has a huge bubble nest and is constantly flaring and trying to lead the female to the nest.

So the prob. is that the female just doesn't seem do want to spawn. She keeps comming to the nest and the both the male and female wiggle in the "S" shape pattern but JUST befor the male goes to embrace her...... she darts away. The male then gets mad and chases her around the tank. Then the process starts all over again..........and again.............and again.

I'm just confused because they both seem very healthy and ready to breed!! How long does it take them to start spawning after you put them together???? Is this just because the female is stubborn???? Is this natural???
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:38 AM   #16 
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btw I have Infusoria
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:47 AM   #17 
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I'd take out and recondition the pair.......... while your doing that........ (I bought a couple cultures about three weeks ago by bettadan on www.aquabid.com but that's not his real name just to let you know he is great at replying and is very polite.) Here is his website where he also sells his cultures and they're cheap www.fancyguppies.net.

Hope I helped,
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #18 
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Thank you guys for ALL the info!!!!!

Update: Bettas are almost finished spawning!!!! Eventually the female decided to spawn and now I have a nest full of eggs!!!!!

I've decided after reading some articles that you guys are right and that "powdered flakes" are not going to work. So heres the plan: #1 Egg yolks, #2 I'm trying currently to cultivate some infusoria in a jar of letuce and water, #3 and also I was wandering if you guys know of any good "liquid fry food" that I could just order online or maybe find in LPS????? I, personally, just think that would be eaier for me..........? Also, I'm just trying to confirm that I do not need to feed the fry until they are free swimming???? (Which takes around 1 week????)
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:02 PM   #19 
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Fry need live food. My fry are 3 weeks old and still won't eat anything that doesn't move. You need to get microworms and BBS.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:46 PM   #20 
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Congrats on your spawn.....now the fun begins......

The fry will not need any food until they absorb their yolk sac and that can very from 3-5 days-and you will have better luck with live foods...if your tank is mature and/or you have live plants and some common snails in the tank you most likely will have some infusoria in the tank for the first few days and this will give you time to get some live food going for them...

BBS are really easy to hatch and pretty fast too....any type of container will work(I use an old 1g peanut container with a hole drilled in the lid for the airline hose) that you can add an airstone-I don't use any added heat or light for mine-I do start the water out at 84-85F and put them in a dark china hutch and will have hatch within 24-28h-once they hatch start another batch....you only want to feed newly hatched BBS to the fry...the BBS need to still have their yolk sac for the most nutrition for the Betta fry and they are still small enough for week-10 day old fry to eat

Back to the Betta fry-since with some spawns it can be 1-4+ hours between eggs laid and so they will hatch that way too as well as free swimming stage....at 80F I get hatch in 24-28h and free swimming in another 2-4 days...I found that if I have the water temp too high they hatch/develop too fast and I will get weak fry that can't get themselves back to the nest and lots of fallers (I spawn in full to the top with water 10g tanks) at 80F I have very few eggs/fry that fall from the nest or need help from the male....anyway...I also leave the male longer than most and depending on the male usually you can leave them...but if the spawn is really important you may want to remove him once most of the fry are free swimming or sooner....

In bare bottom half full tanks-once you start adding food you need to start adding water daily to dilute the pollutants and hormones for best growth and development...once the tank is full then you start making at least 50% daily water changes and look for deformed and/or struggling fry and cull.

Good luck and look forward to following their growth and development and pics.....
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