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Old 02-03-2011, 11:58 PM   #11 
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Didnt think you needed to do water changes when cycling. I was under the impression that you got your ammonia up and then kept it there. It will drop on its own when the bacteria start to convert it. Also when it does drop you want to bump it back up so that the Nitrosomonas bacteria dont starve while the Nitrospira bacteria begin converting the nitrite. I much prefer the shrimp in method. Drop your dead shrimp in and just watch the numbers. Tooooooo easy lol.
If tank 1 has already started to progress with its cycle why not 'seed' tank 2 with bacteria from tank 1? Squeeze your filter sponge into tank 2. Some bacteria will be transfered and kick-start your cycle in tank 2. Also I would recommend dropping the temp a little. A raised temp will help the bacteria grow but too high will not be good.
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:23 PM   #12 
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Just want to say about temperature. My betta perfect even in 72* the higher the temperature the more the bacteria and fungus flourishes.I have 2 bettas in dr office i am working the temperature in the tanks even lower and bettas are 2.7 years old,and never get sick yet :). I know u guys not going to like the temperature parameters but it fact. His 2 bettas well i brought them there they rescue from Walmart in 1 gall for each. I just change 100% every 7 days. I work there every saturday. No filter ,i never even check the water i just put water conditioner. I don't know may be the doctor has some kind of positive energy :)
If it is a one gallon with no filter you need to be doing 100% water changes every day. `Also even though you said your bettas seem fine, it is not recommended to keep the temperature that low. The recommended range is 76-82 degrees. Wow and the doctors office is lower than 72? Definitely get heaters asap.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:10 PM   #13 
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Can you give a complete history of what you've done with the tank? any details might help. and if nothing else you could try tossing a few stem plants in there to cut the ammonia down a bit. =]
washed the new tank with hot water, same with the deco, put it all in the tank filled it up put in the water conditioar ( it doesnt take out Ammonia)
Setup the heater filter ect and added a teaspoon of ammonia.Replaced the Filter due to it having some faults. Waited a few days and tested again and Ammonia was still off charts so i did a 70% water change. Ammonia was still off charts with water change, so i let it go a few more days, tank got reallly cloudy ( due to sunlight i would assume) checked lvls still same so did another water change to get rid of the cloudyness.And since then i have just been letting the tank go. ( tho i have been messing with it more cause of my filter and bubbler not working together. the bubbler is taking more air so the filter isnt working so i have had to kink the hose) other than that its had nothing else done to it.

Hope that helped >.<
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:17 PM   #14 
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Next time you see the cloudiness, leave it. That was your bacterial bloom :)
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:31 PM   #15 
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^^^ yep from what I read the cloudiness is a good thing. after a few more days of it being cloudy your ammonia levels should go down.

(I haven't cycled all the way though before though. I'm planting so I can avoid it! :'D)
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:38 PM   #16 
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Hey guys, Im new to this as well. Been trying to cycle fishless with a piece of shrimp. Started Jan 1st. 10 gallon FW with filter and heater. Heat is at 83.
So I got bloom, and then ammo and now its Feb6th and still not seeing anything.
Ammo is 4ppm (down from 5-6ppm last week)
Nitrite is above 0 but below .25 still has a blue hue but not 0.
Nitrate is 0
Ph 7.5
Filter is running.
Nitrite has been at this level since week 2 or so. Any suggestions? More shrimp? Leave it? I don't want to add another if it will raise the ammo to like 8ppm and stall the cycle. I know patience is the key to this. Anything I can do?
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:03 PM   #17 
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I typically encourage ditching the cycling process and just getting plants but with a ten gallon that's a bit tricky. :/ You'd need A LOT of plants.

Nothing I can advise really so I'm just gonna post so someone with cycling experience see this! XD
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Realllly hope these tanks get fully cycled soon >.< my betta fish are suppose to be shipped out in the next 2 weeks
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I typically encourage ditching the cycling process and just getting plants but with a ten gallon that's a bit tricky. :/ You'd need A LOT of plants.

Nothing I can advise really so I'm just gonna post so someone with cycling experience see this! XD
Do live plants make the cycling process quicker? If so on wed when i get payed ill head down to my LFS and get maybe 2-3 live plants per tank.
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:46 PM   #20 
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You will need more than 2-3 lol.
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