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Old 10-24-2011, 02:00 AM   #1 
Wulvie Sharpteeth
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Question One VERY Nervous Female!! :S

HELP MEEEEH!

I have two bettas, Dragon my CT male and China my wild-type female. I bought them not too long ago (maybe 2 months ago) for the purpose of breeding them.

everything was going well, I have a 40litre tank which I used to have a slab of glass to separate them (but they were still able to see eachother) but that didnt go on for too long as China would go very pale and have EXTREME stress stripes!

I then moved her in with my guppies (which I am breeding also) and her colours have brightend up significantly and she is doing very well there. I then waited about another week and tried moving her into Dragons 40L tank (this time I used one of those 'volcao vases' to separate them) but her colours IMMEDIATELY turned to a muddy blue/red and her head (which is usually a navy blue - dark brown) turned tan-brown and her stress stripes came back :( She is now living with the guppies again until I can figure out what to do.

btw, my male was showing every sign of wanting to breed. At the sight of China he wuld build a bubble nest and would flare at her. He isnt an aggressive fish AT ALL so its not that he was wanting to kill her or anything :S

Is there anything I could be doing wrong?? or is it just a case of her not being a good 'breeding fish'??

plz, any help whatsoever would be much appreciated :)

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Old 10-24-2011, 02:11 AM   #2 
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Males always want to breed...its the females you really need to focus on.
She most likely got scared because you effectively took her out of her territory where she was happy and confident and placed her inside an aggressive males territory.
Keep her where she is since she is happy and confident there. If you want to breed her you will need to condition her and get her confidence up by raising her aggression
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Males always want to breed...its the females you really need to focus on.
She most likely got scared because you effectively took her out of her territory where she was happy and confident and placed her inside an aggressive males territory.
Keep her where she is since she is happy and confident there. If you want to breed her you will need to condition her and get her confidence up by raising her aggression

oh ok, so how would I raise her aggression/confidence a bit?
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What I would do would be to isolate her in a place where she cant see any other fish (guppy or betta) so she can establish a territory. After a few weeks when she has proudly claimed her home, you can let her flare at a small female or male that will not do much flaring back. Make sure you don't remove her from her territory, but you could place the "intruder" next to her tank instead. only let her see the intruder for a little while (less than a minute) and if you see her getting stressed remove the intruder immediately. You don't want her to learn how to submit, you want her to think that she has managed to chase away a baddie from her home and gain a big ego. At first take the intruder away as soon as she starts to flare, if you leave them flaring together for too long, one will give up and it will most likely be your girl. She might not flare the first few times of introduction but if she believes the fish ran away from her anyway she will get cocky and the thought of another potential intruder will increase the territoriality.
Bear in mind though that by boosting her natural territoriality, it will become difficult to acclimatize her to a soriety if you want to do so in the future.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:36 PM   #5 
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What I would do would be to isolate her in a place where she cant see any other fish (guppy or betta) so she can establish a territory. After a few weeks when she has proudly claimed her home, you can let her flare at a small female or male that will not do much flaring back. Make sure you don't remove her from her territory, but you could place the "intruder" next to her tank instead. only let her see the intruder for a little while (less than a minute) and if you see her getting stressed remove the intruder immediately. You don't want her to learn how to submit, you want her to think that she has managed to chase away a baddie from her home and gain a big ego. At first take the intruder away as soon as she starts to flare, if you leave them flaring together for too long, one will give up and it will most likely be your girl. She might not flare the first few times of introduction but if she believes the fish ran away from her anyway she will get cocky and the thought of another potential intruder will increase the territoriality.
Bear in mind though that by boosting her natural territoriality, it will become difficult to acclimatize her to a soriety if you want to do so in the future.

awesome, I will definitely try this :D thank you so much!
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