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Old 02-15-2011, 12:19 AM   #1 
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Exclamation socrates is sick and i have no clue ?!?!

all he is doing is laying on the bottom of his tank ..he just lays there i have tryed everything that i know of fungal treatment parisite treatment a salt bath not all at the same time mind you that would be bad i even thought it was contapation fed him the pea fasted him still nothing he just lays there i am at a lose i have no clue there are no signs of tail rot mouth fungus or anything external if any one has a thought i would be forever greatful just upsets me alittle to know hez sick and i can't do anything to help with out knowing what it is oh this has gone on for 2 weeks please help if you can
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:35 AM   #2 
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how old is he?
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:32 AM   #3 
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Sorry your Betta is not well...have a few questions....

How big is the tank, how much and how often are the water changes, water temp, filtration, live plants, additives used, appetite, type of foods, how long have you had him....and he has had multi meds and treatment over the past two weeks due to illness...correct....can you give detailed symptoms.....
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:14 PM   #4 
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Can you take some pics, best quality preferred so people can see if they can spot anything? That really helps.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:10 PM   #5 
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hez in a 2gal temp is 79 water change is 100% weekly he does have live plants attisons water cond.and aquasafe declor. i've had him for 3 months but he came from a walmart as a gift from my nephew the treatments are spread out over the 2 weeks yes i'll upload some pics all he does is lay on his side proped up on a rock and does not move only to grab some air from time to time and now has stopped eating


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Old 02-16-2011, 09:30 AM   #6 
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I would start a 10 day Epsom salt(Not aquarium salt) treatment on him.

Put him in a small QT container that can be floated in the heated tank (attached to the side so it doesn't sink) this will also help him get to air easier

Get a clean 1gal jug and fill with dechlorinated water of like temp and add 1tsp/gal Epsom salt(Not aquarium salt) use this water for 100% daily water changes for 2 days-then increase the Epsom salt 2tsp/gal and continue the 100% daily water changes with this water for 7 more days-pre mixing the treatment water will help make water changes and correct dosage easier

Hold all food for the first 3 days and then offer half feeding twice a day during treatment

Maintain water temp in the 76-78F range

You can also add tannins to the Epsom salt treatment water from either-naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf (10-12 crushed/gal) or Indian almond leaf or blackwater extract or decaf green tea-let one of these steep in the treatment water for at least 1 hour before use-the longer it steeps the more tannins released the dark the water the more the Betta will like it...shake well before use

Make sure the pre-mix treatment water is within a couple of degree in temp between the QT water-so not to cause temp shock problems.

Covering the top of the QT container with plastic veggie wrap will also help by keeping the air above the water warm and humid for the labyrinth organ.

Good luck and keep us posted....
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