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Old 02-19-2011, 12:51 AM   #1 
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Question Spoon Head Trait

Spoon-head, haunch-back whatever you call it, it's generally considered an undesirable BODY form.

Anyone know if spoon-head is dominant or hard to breed out while retaining finnage?
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:24 AM   #2 
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DON'T breed something like that. Don't even attempt it, the fry will carry it in their genes and then there will be many generations of deformed fry from this )=

Thanks for asking first. Many irresponsible breeders don't ask and cause problems, but it's good when someone cares.

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Old 02-19-2011, 01:36 AM   #3 
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Even if his sibling sister shows nice symmetry?
I'm wondering how strong this trait is since he shows it while she does not.
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:30 AM   #4 
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Well if it's a sibling of one and she's bred to a Betta from a different line it should be good... I thought you meant breeding a Betta with that problem.

Don't know much, but while there is always a risk of bad body shape, If it's like that then IMO you should be good. Hopefully some more members have advice to lend...?
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:22 PM   #5 
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I think he meant should he still not breed him even though his sister has a good shape.
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:14 PM   #6 
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Even if his sister has a good body form, don't breed. Since he has a dip in his head, she'd probably carry that gene as well, and some/most of the fry would need to be culled because of that.

Edit- Honestly, I wouldn't breed his sister to an unrelated male, either... again, she could carry that gene and that would result in some bad fry.

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Old 02-19-2011, 07:25 PM   #7 
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Do you have any pictures? How bad is it? My first breeder male, Sid, had a slightly dipped head. Nothing too serious and he made 1st place in his class at a show so it obviously wasn't seen as a fault.

Some people think any form of a dip is bad. Personally I want to see no dip at all but paired with a female with a good topline I think it should be easy to correct.


Pictures would really help. Depending on how drastic it is is going to determine if he should be bred.
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:11 PM   #8 
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Photo's will help a lot to answer this question....A LOT of top winning Betta fish have dips behind the eyes...And most of the imports I have brought in do....I think newbies are confusing this look with some of the deformities that the DT's produce...
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:37 PM   #9 
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I also think people confuse dippy heads with bent spines.

This was my guy...


Bad picture but you can see he had a little dip in his head. He was still a gorgeous fish. I wish I would have been able to get a good spawn from him before he died.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:50 PM   #10 
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Oh. Yeah, I was confusing that... Keyoda, I'll let the more experienced breeders help you with this one.
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