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Old 03-25-2011, 05:05 PM   #1 
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Can I keep them?

Hi all my inhabitants are in my signature and I would love a male and perhaps a female. My main concern is guppies and the abf. Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:38 PM   #2 
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ABF may eat the betta... Guppies may or may not work. Depends on the individual betta.
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:40 PM   #3 
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I don't thnk it can fit in his mouth
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:32 PM   #4 
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I think I read somewhere that even though the fish can't fit something in its mouth doesn't mean it can't eat it. It will eat it piece by piece. Ripping a piece off one at a time.
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:19 PM   #5 
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I just saw an ABF eat a harlequin rasbora on youtube. Bettas are not much bigger and much slower.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:27 PM   #6 
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http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php

Someone showed me this website. Its not completely 100% accurate, but is somewhat reliable.
I put in a 38 gallon tank and a ABF, and that alone is overstocked. Adding all of those, except for the bushy nose pleco, its already 111% stocked, meaning its 11% overstocked of what it should be holding.

You can't keep male and female bettas together. They will kill eachother.
Assuming you add one male into the tank, thats 114% stocked.

All of this is not including their habits/personalities.

In short, you can't have all of those together, with a betta.
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:00 AM   #7 
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http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php

Someone showed me this website. Its not completely 100% accurate, but is somewhat reliable.
I put in a 38 gallon tank and a ABF, and that alone is overstocked. Adding all of those, except for the bushy nose pleco, its already 111% stocked, meaning its 11% overstocked of what it should be holding.

You can't keep male and female bettas together. They will kill eachother.
Assuming you add one male into the tank, thats 114% stocked.

All of this is not including their habits/personalities.

In short, you can't have all of those together, with a betta.
Actually you can keep males and females together. However, you have to have a very large tank and you have to study your fish's behavior very often to ensure it will work.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:24 AM   #8 
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Actually you can keep males and females together. However, you have to have a very large tank and you have to study your fish's behavior very often to ensure it will work.

Really? I never knew that. How big does the tank have to be? Wouldn't they breed? Or would the large space allow them to steer clear of eachother?
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One abf doens't over stock a 38
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:40 PM   #10 
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Really? I never knew that. How big does the tank have to be? Wouldn't they breed? Or would the large space allow them to steer clear of eachother?
A densely planted 55 gallon would do, however some people have done this in smaller aquariums. As long as the female doesn't go into his territory, he probably wouldn't notice her. And in such a big tank she could easily get away from him. However, you have to be sure that your'e fish aren't overly aggressive or it won't work. This works best if the fish are brother and sister and have never been seperated. They may breed, but the male would have to entice the female to his nest. Alternitavely, a group of females with 1 male would work.
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