Bacteria Infection ??

[Niki801]

Hi Guys,
I need your help, please have a look at my poor beta who is suffering some unknown disease. I guess its bacteria infection in his belly. Not the deadly dropsy. Cause its been quite a while like that. i have purchased some antibiotics but seems not helping much. Any ideas ?
He is not eating and always sitting at bottom. Really worrying here.
pics are too big, i will upload later.

[iheartmybettas]

Will you please copy this and fill it out so that everyone can better help you?

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?

[Niki801]

Housing : **** 2 litre water tank (per betta)
What size is your tank? : **** 19cmW x 11cmD x 12.5cm H
What temperature is your tank? **** 25 C degree
Does your tank have a filter? **** No
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? ****No
Is your tank heated? ***** I have a light on side but only operating when i am home
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? ***** clay toys?? Not sure

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? **** petlet, black worms
How often do you feed your betta fish? **** Morning and Evening, 2-3 for each

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? ***** Everyday since my betta sicked
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?**** 80% since betta sicked
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? **** tap water conditioner, stress ZYME and aquarium salt

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia: n/a
Nitrite: n/a
Nitrate: n/a
pH: 7.2
Hardness: n/a
Alkalinity: n/a

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? ***** swell under the belly and on side, but not the whole body bloating
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? **** yes, laying at bottom, not eating and not moving much
When did you start noticing the symptoms? ***** 7 days ago
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? ***** Start changing water frequently (everyday or every other day depends on water condition), apply API Melafixfix (antibacterial remedy)everytime when i changed the water.
Does your fish have any history of being ill? ***** No
How old is your fish (approximately)? ***** No idea
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[Niki801]

Originally Posted by Niki801

Hi Guys,
I need your help, please have a look at my poor beta who is suffering some unknown disease. I guess its bacteria infection in his belly. Not the deadly dropsy. Cause its been quite a while like that. i have purchased some antibiotics but seems not helping much. Any ideas ?
He is not eating and always sitting at bottom. Really worrying here.
pics are too big, i will upload later.

Hi guys, the Red one is the sick one, the other one is getting better but still not eating much. But clouds from fin are much better. Any idea about the problem the red one has ? I don't think it's dropsy. Because its not whole body bloat and not like pine cone. I think its internal bacteria infection caused partial bloating. I have bought 'Aqua Master Aquari-Cycline Antibiotic Tablets' hope it will be delivered soon.

[LolaQuigs]

Do you have a picture?

That's a really small tank; it would be a very good idea to upgrade. But at least (now) you are doing appropriate water changes for that size tank. What was your water change schedule like before you noticed that he looked ill?

[Niki801]

Originally Posted by LolaQuigs

Do you have a picture?

That's a really small tank; it would be a very good idea to upgrade. But at least (now) you are doing appropriate water changes for that size tank. What was your water change schedule like before you noticed that he looked ill?

Before he was sicked, i approximately change once a week.... Which i discovered that its not enough for this size of tank.

[Niki801]

Originally Posted by LolaQuigs

Do you have a picture?

That's a really small tank; it would be a very good idea to upgrade. But at least (now) you are doing appropriate water changes for that size tank. What was your water change schedule like before you noticed that he looked ill?

Can you visually identify the disease ? dropsy or just bacteria infection. why belly bloating. And how can i let them start to eat. They both not eating for 2 -3 days.

[LolaQuigs]

Poor guy, he really doesn't look good. I'm sorry, I can't really diagnose him, I was thinking maybe he was just bloated, but seeing the picture now I don't know...I don't know much about bacterial infections I'm sorry. You should send a PM to OldFishLady, she knows all about betta diseases, she should be able to figure out what is wrong with him. Sorry I can't offer any advice....

[Niki801]

Thanks LolaQuigs, i will send a message to OldFishLady see if i can get any advise from there.

[Oldfishlady]

I would try Epsom salt 1tsp/gal along with 100% daily water changes for 2 days and on day 3 increase Epsom salt 2tsp/gal along with 100% daily water changes for 7 more days totally 10 days....it almost looks like a tumor and if it is.....not a lot you can do.....