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Old 11-23-2011, 04:44 PM   #1481 
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I'd sooner go natural then buy chemicals. Only when natural methods fail me do I use them. IAL is a natural conditioner for the water.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:00 PM   #1482 
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I think that, that's the best way to go PixelatedPaint. Natural should be at least tried:)

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Old 11-23-2011, 05:01 PM   #1483 
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It is pretty cheap too. It cost me like 20 bucks to buy all the IAL I need for the year in all my tanks. I'll probably go hunting for oak leaves next fall though.
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What do you mean? You can actually put oak leaves in the tanks? And what is that for, (what does it do)?

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Old 11-23-2011, 05:21 PM   #1485 
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The same as indian almond leaves. Some species of oak release darker tannin then others. Also you need to be sure the oak trees you chose from are not trees which have been subject to pesticides.
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The same as indian almond leaves. Some species of oak release darker tannin then others. Also you need to be sure the oak trees you chose from are not trees which have been subject to pesticides.
Oh I see and that would be scary to try and get a leaf from a tree that has had pesticides in it.

How would you go about getting one from a tree that hasn't used pesticides? I would think to try to get some from in town or a park right? Pesticides are mostly on fields and other crops, but not near public areas, right?

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Old 11-23-2011, 05:50 PM   #1487 
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Parks are usually alright. I have some in my parent's backyard. You do not pick them, you wait until fall and for them to fall and dry naturally. No green leaves. Some rinse and pop them right in, some steep them first to help the tannin leach out and use the dark water from the steeping as a base for water changes...just store in a sterilized jug. I will be hunting some this fall. Depending on your area, the kind of oak you find will vary.

Chinquapin Oak seems to leach the fastest and the darkest.
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Parks are usually alright. I have some in my parent's backyard. You do not pick them, you wait until fall and for them to fall and dry naturally. No green leaves. Some rinse and pop them right in, some steep them first to help the tannin leach out and use the dark water from the steeping as a base for water changes...just store in a sterilized jug. I will be hunting some this fall. Depending on your area, the kind of oak you find will vary.

Chinquapin Oak seems to leach the fastest and the darkest.
Maybe I could get some from you? I can just pay shipping and if it is okay with you to hunt some extra from me?

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Old 11-23-2011, 06:28 PM   #1489 
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Unfortunately we got snow early this year so they are all buried. The ones I have left will only last me until my IAL comes in.
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Unfortunately we got snow early this year so they are all buried. The ones I have left will only last me until my IAL comes in.
Oh no no no...I was talking about NEXT fall. I dont want to take any from you.

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