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Old 06-11-2011, 07:23 PM   #11 
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Sorry I haven't updated in a bit. Things haven't been going so well.

I lost my little red girl, Copper, to dropsy. And I'm now treating another, Abigail, for it as well. No luck with the epsom though, so she's on to antibiotics and antifungals. She's so big and pineconed, but she's still active and eating. She seems less than pleased with me that she's only getting fed every 3 or 4 days, though.

Three of the other girls are always stressed (horizontal stripes 24/7) and one of those is looking bigger and bigger every day. I'm not sure if she's just constipated though, as she is a pig.

Here's a pic of CC, the pig.

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Old 06-11-2011, 09:39 PM   #12 
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CC might just be eggy... hopefully.

I'm so sorry to hear about the drospy... and that the remaining girls are showing stress bars isn't good.

How's your water parameters looking?
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:13 PM   #13 
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I'm sorry to hear that :(

If you have multiple females showing signs then it is most likely due to parasites or a bacterial infection, not food. Give them Jungle's Anti-parasite pellets and use any water treatment that contains metronidazole that you can find (API General Cure for example). Combine that with the epsom salt treatment and DAILY water changes for all of them. Separate and treat all girls showing signs of pinconning. It also helps to raise the temp to 82-84*F. Good Luck and keep us posted.
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:34 PM   #14 
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FFF, All is well with my water. I've been checking daily, as well as daily 25 % water changes out of paranoia. (sadly there are no real tests for bacteria or parasites in water test form)

Darkmoon, I can't treat the tank that they are in, as I have briggs in there and the meds are not safe for them. I have seperated CC out, even though she's not pineconing, she's just big. The first two were removed as soon as they showed up with raised scales. The first girl was already too far gone and died within a day of being removed, she was very young.

The second is doing well. She's still bloated with raised scales, but highly active. Since my back-ups are only 1/2 gallon, I've been doing 2x daily water changes. I live in Florida, so keeping those little containers warm is not a problem. I am keeping the lights off in that room most of the time, as I was told they like dark when they're sick.
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:48 PM   #15 
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Sorry about the dropsy :( hopefully the other one will pull through
Maybe you should try to feed CC less or she just might be eggy
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:56 PM   #16 
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Epsom salt will help with the bloating/pineconing, if organ damage has not already occurred... Treat in a seperate container though, not in main tank.

With higher temperatures, bacterial infection is always a worry.

Please answer these questions, so we have a better chance of nailing down what's going on:

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
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Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:58 PM   #17 
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I filled that out when the first one got sick, I only got one answer, from OFL. Everything's the same, except for behavior. Abigail even looks like copper did in those pics.

http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=71500

Since she wasn't pineconed, and was still very active, I gave CC part of a pea. She pooed, and her belly is now 1/2 the size it was.

Abigail has more color back since starting Fungus Clear(antibacterial and anti-fungal) several days ago. I can't pick up more meds until thursday, so I'm gonna go with what I have for now. Walmart here doesn't carry much, and they are out of everything but stress coat, clear water, and bowl buddies. The petsmarts and my LFS(as local as I have) is an hour away. With school and work, I don't have time.

Abigail is pale, although not as much as she was yesterday. She is pineconed. However, she is extremely active-to the point I have to put her plastic jewel things in her QT tank to keep her happy (she knocks them around and chased them...kinda like playing soccer with herself). I'm only feeding her every few days, which she seems to look forward to and enjoy immensely.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I ordered another azoo filter and mini heater, and will be picking up another 2.5 gallon for abigail when I go pick up the anti-parisite meds.

and some questions: Are any anti-parisite meds safe for snails and shrimp? Also, if I treat all my girls, even the ones that seem okay, out of the main tank, will they become sick again when I re-introduce them?

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Old 06-13-2011, 08:06 PM   #18 
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You know, I think you should follow up by PMing OFL... where there are so many fish involved, I'd really like to have her input on this...
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To avoid harming your shrimp/snails I would use medicated pellets (remove uneaten ones before the shrimp/snails eat them). Jungle sells Anti-parasite pellets that are great for treating dropsy and it won't hurt your fish if they don't have dropsy. It is equivalent to giving your dog/cat a dewormer. Whatever you use, make sure it contains Metronidazole.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:24 PM   #20 
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Okay guys, just got off of work. Only got about a minute to check my messages before I have to get to dinner. Just wanted to update everyone on abigail.

As of tonight, she has much more color back. She doesn't look bloated anymore, and her scales have gone down quite a bit. Today was feeding day, and man did she appreciate it. I think she is going to be getting her own 2.5 anyway, and I am still keeping my fingers crossed that the Fungus clear and epsom salt continue to work.
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