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Old 06-26-2011, 08:44 PM   #1 
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Not a betta, maybe a guppy?

A fry? I think was scooped up with my stepmoms goldfish, they threw it all in the pond she is working on but this thing is TINY. I took my net and netted it out, its tail is nipped and its TINY and clear, a guppy fry maybe? Anyone know? I put it in nice water and a bit of aquarium salt and i dont know what it is/needs fully so i put a sponge filter/airater in a 1gal just in case. Otherwise itd be fishfood tonight, which i think was its purpose anyways being in a big fishes tank? Heres the best pic i could get, its not doing well, nipped tail, a couple of small red dots on its head, its just sittin still breathing....
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:08 PM   #2 
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Its starting to swim now, nipped fin, but still okay, not sure what the two tiny red dots on its back are, its hard to see things well with such a tiny thing. Anyone got guppies that can confirm this is a guppy? I have no idea how to take care of it, but it was getting bullied in that pond and i pitied it >.< Reminds me of a minnow lol.
Heres a quick vid, guppy fry? minnow? XD
http://s165.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=P1140701.mp4
once i know what it is i can figure out what to do :P
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:12 PM   #3 
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Could be a minnow? Don't know too much on them.
If it were a guppy it would be a female. The tail looks purple and sort've looks like a guppy female tail. What I don't get is the body being long and there being no gravid spot. I wouldn't lean towards guppy.
Where did she get the fish from?
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:24 PM   #4 
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She had some goldfish scooped out at petsmart yesterday, today they mentioned it so i went to see her new pond, it had filled with algae but i caught sight of this thing, she said there were quite a few swimming with the goldfish and i thought it looked a bit like a guppy so i scooped it out out of pity. Whatever it is it was very see though, its starting to get a bit of a "shimmer" to its body now but still pretty see though. I tried crushing up a flake but it isnt showing interest in anything. She sort of just threw it in, i acclimated it to clean spring water and aquarium salt but have no idea what it is lol I just pitied it being chased. Its about a cm long maybe and transparent, its face looks like a guppy from what im seeing but it doesnt have that fat belly i keep seeing on guppy fry. I didnt want to show up at a guppy forum and find out i have a minnow :)) I threw a single mosquito larvae in but it is just letting it swim around, i think it actually may be too small to eat that even. Hm...
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:26 PM   #5 
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Looks like a guppy to me, it has the same body shape. She may not have a gravid spot because she's too young to be pregnant or didn't get a chance to mate before she ended up in the pond. Minnows are torpedo or tube shaped because they are related to tetras.
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You can see minnows have a body shape that is more or less straight and the tail melds seamlessly into th body. Guppies, even males, have that funny rectangular tail attached to a kind of square body.
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:28 PM   #6 
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Ah! Thank you for the pictures, my google images is being stupid and wont load images. Def not a minnow. Now i need to see what they need, i luckily came across a 10 gallon tank my neighbor threw out yesterday, maybe i can run out and grab a couple more swimming with the goldfish at petsmart if they havent been killed. They look so odd though, im used to seeing bettas XD
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:35 PM   #7 
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Does she swim at the surface a lot? Guppies are midlevel to surface swimmers and when they say surface, they mean it. Guppies practically have their dorsals sticking out of the water like sharks sometimes. She's such a cute little thing, so tiny. If she's too small for pellets or regular food, try crushing up flakes into a powder for her. Good ol TetraMin or TetraColor work fine.
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:47 PM   #8 
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At first she sat at the bottom, i thought she was going to die but now shes either at the top or at the middle, unless i come up then she swims down behind a leaf. No interest in food though, i worry since its a fry that it has much less time to go without eating before dying. Ill try again in the morning. I luckily have tons of tropical fish flakes i can crush since the bettas use pellets and the tanks come with samples. We'll see if she makes it through the night.
Yeah oddly cute lol Just so so tiny, hard to spot unless you REALLY look for her, her transparency doesnt help things. I have a bubbler on low in 1 gallon for her tonight, if she survives a week or so ill think of something else. Id like to fully fishless cycle a 10 gallon though, my current 10g is cycling with my two bettas and frequent water changes. Im guessing guppies like friends, total opposite of what im used to. Ive only ever been into bettas XD
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:03 AM   #9 
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I know, I tried guppies briefly a week ago. They spent so much time at the surface and dashing around like crazy I thought they were all about to die because in bettas, that's what that behavior means! Unfortunately, my guppies from Petsmart turned out to have worms so I had to return them (didn't want to risk infecting my bettas). I felt bad about it. But yup, guppies love friends. Maybe wait until she's just a bit bigger, though, before getting her pals. Guppies do eat their own fry. Do you have any frozen daphnia or brine shrimp? A lot of fry are fed daphnia or newly hatched brine shrimp, so maybe she'll eat that.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:08 AM   #10 
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I dont have any brine shrimp but i have one of those "sea monkey" kits i bought ot play with, i think those are brine shrimp but im not positive and not positive they would be safe. Im mostely only stocked for bettas, this was just such a surprise pity thing. Maybe tomorrow i can go hunting, weve had alot of rain these past few days, maybe theres some smaller mosquito larvae out there that she could fit into her mouth. By the time i got home with her it was dark and i had a few larvae in a bowl outside but they are pretty big. Apparently petsmart puts the fry with goldfish, maybe guppies just breed so often that they use fry as fishfood, hopefully it wasnt a culled fry that happened to get away, i dont see any deformitys, but yeah its face makes me giggle, the position of its eyes are really far apart and huge XD Like its so shocked at everything :P
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