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Old 07-05-2011, 10:25 PM   #1 
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Crowntail Fin Rot or Bacterial?

I have Healthy and Unhealthy pics of my CT Betta, please advise on effective treatment. I think there is bacteria or disease in my water, my previous Delta Betta slowly showed signs of sickening and died before summer. This new Betta is showing the same pattern. I'll change h20, add salt for ten days.
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tank? 6.6 gal
82 degrees
Petco Power Filter 2.0 Polyfiber/Carbon-rinse and reuse
aeration? no
heated? yes
1 fat neon tetra

Aqueon Betta Food pellets
twice daily, 3-4 pellets

water change? two weeks, 35%
AmQuel Plus-1/4 tsp per 2.5 gal

Water:
Ammonia: ran out of strips, but usually it is within safe range.
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: < 20ppm
pH: 8.0
Hardness: 150 - 300
Alkalinity: 120 - 180

Symptoms and Treatment
changed? fins are ragged, white/gray, thin
behavior changed? no change
symptoms? one month ago
no treatment
no history of illness
6 months old at most
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:30 AM   #2 
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At what temperature is your tank? I'd recommend 82.
Add epsom salt, not aquarium salt.
First dissolve around 2tsp of salt in a glass of water and then add it to the tank, don't add salt directly to the water.
Also, I'd recommend treating him in a separate tank, especially since he has a tank mate.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:44 AM   #3 
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He probably needs more water changes too. Only 35% every 2 weeks seems really lax. Best treatment for fins as far as I've read and experienced is clean, warm water, and aquarium salt 1-2 tsp/gallon.

I've also heard somewhere that to help keep crowntail fins strong and healthy, it is a good idea to let them get some sunlight, but I don't know how credible that would be. It certainly doesn't hurt my crowntail any.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:23 AM   #4 
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I agree, you definitely need to bump up the water changes.
kgs- Epsom salt is for bloating, unless he's bloated I suggest adding AQ salt (rock salt).
Do his fins appear fuzzy? Did you add anything new to the tank before the symptoms occured? Such as maybe a new conditioner brand or something? Frequent water changes will definitely help imo. Also try feeding bloodworms, they're high in proteins and help with fin growth.
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:53 AM   #5 
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Hi Shelby and welcome to the forum. What a pretty crowntail. Here are a few tips for you:

Water changes: one 25% and one 50% change a week if the tank is cycled. 25% and 75% if it is not.

Fin rot IS a bacterial infection and it looks like your little guy has it. If you have live plants, you'll want to treat him in a QT container like a small bowl or cup or a Gladware because aquarium salt will kill live plants. Plus, the smaller container makes it easier to do the required daily water changes.

Fill his container partway with his old tank water. In a gallon jug or container, mix up one gallon of dechlorinated water and one tsp of aquarium salt (dosage is one tsp per gallon). When the salt dissolves, fill his container the rest of the way with the mixture. Float him in his tank so he can stay warm. Temps of 82-84 degrees are good. Change the water in his container every day and redo the salt mixture. If he has not improved after five days, increase the salt dosage to two tsps.

If he gets stressed in his small container and you don't have live plants, you can treat him in the tank. Do a water change first, then add six tsps of salt. You will still have to change at least 75% of the water every day and redo the salt, being careful to only add salt for the water you're putting back in. ie, if you take out five gallons, put in five tsps of salt.

I hope the little guy gets better soon. Keep us posted!
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:46 AM   #6 
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My bad, I got confused! :P
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:57 AM   #7 
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Don't worry, it's easy to do.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:54 AM   #8 
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get well soon fishy! =]
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Old 07-06-2011, 11:58 AM   #9 
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I think the warmer is the water the more chance of the fungal and bacterial infections. Especially fungus love wormer water. And fin rot can be bacterial or fungal.

I also would recommend the 1-50% and1-100% water changes a wk.

I personally love 100% water changes though.

Also just want to say aquarium salt treatment can't be more then 10 days.
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:13 PM   #10 
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its definatly a crown tail nothing else i know cause i have 12 bettas
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