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Old 07-12-2011, 01:27 PM   #1 
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The way I care for my fish....

I do most everything differently from everyone else with ALL of my fish.

We don't use conditioner for the water,
we don't have any fancy testing kits, ect. ect.

Neither of my bettas have heaters... nether does my 75Gal Cichlid tank, there are 3 fish in there.

Tigger is in a .5 gallon and he is quite happy, philip is in a 1.5 gallon and he thinks its the bees knees.

We, as fishkeepers at my house, find that all the fancy jazz like water conditioners, is just another way for a company to make money, your fish does not need them!

putting water conditioner in your water could possibly shorten your fish's life. All of my fish have lived or are living long and happy lives without all that water keeper jazz.

i dunno, its just the way it is at my house, it saves you money!!!

But yeah.

I'm sure y'all are going to well at me for not properly keeping my fish, but I'll tell you something right now, I have 2 13 year old fish, a 5 year old, a 4 year old, and a 2 year old fish. They all live happy lives and we don't spend so much money on all that fancy crap...

So...

Don't yell, I'm just sharing that.

Don't try to "Make us see reason" because we've been keeping for for 13 years, I think we know what we are going.

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Thanks guys!
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:35 PM   #2 
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What do you want? A round of applause for going against possibly all the most basic rules of fishkeeping? Well, you're not going to find it here.

Not using water conditioner is basically another way of saying making a fish swim around in toxin chlorine, chloramine, and heavy metals. Half a gallon is quite literally torture. Bettas need at least 2.5 gallons with a filter and a heater.

I don't really know what you're trying to achieve here. I know you are going to upset a lot of members on here as what you are doing is very, very cruel.

Oh, and that old trick... 'we've been keeping fish for 13 years'.. that old claptrap. You could have been keeping fish for thousands of years, but that doesn't change anything. There are rules and instructions for fishkeeping. Blindly going against all of them simply because you think you are right for 13 yeears doesn't make you a good fishkeeper.

You should be ashamed. I hope you are trolling and this sort of torture isn't really going on.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:36 PM   #3 
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That may be true for you, but not for everyone.

We at my house have good well water that doesn't have the added chemicals that city water has, therefor we don't need conditioner either. I also don't have a heater in my tank... but that's because I live in Florida and during the summer months the water is perfect for Alpha. My GF has a goldfish that's lived for 5+ years in a tiny bowl with very rare water changes, and its still alive and going strong.

I'm sure some fish are a bit heartier, or there is something in other peoples water that isn't in yours. Or the other way around. In the end, it should come down to what works for you and your fish.

I don't have enough knowledge however to argue any of your other points.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:38 PM   #4 
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In a funny way, I actually kinda agree with you. It seems fish keeping has lost it's relax state and its all about the tanks and brands, and who's better than who at fish keeping. My Ben is much happier now that I have stopped fussing and following guidelines and just letting him and I be normal. I have seen time and time again, people without the internet and forums taking care of fish just fine :)

But we do need to use water conditioners here, it's city water and you can't even drink it. Out of the tap, it smells like a pool of chlorine :S
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:39 PM   #5 
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My GF has a goldfish that's lived for 5+ years in a tiny bowl with very rare water changes.
5 years is absolutely nothing for a goldfish. It's only just adult. The lifespan for a well cared for goldfish is 20-30 years, not a dismal 5.

Besides, do you think that goldfish is thriving in this 'jar'? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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5 years is absolutely nothing for a goldfish. It's only just adult. The lifespan for a well cared for goldfish is 20-30 years, not a dismal 5.

Besides, do you think that goldfish is thriving in this 'jar'? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Who's trolling now? You can talk about this subject without coming off as a snobby know it all. Although what you are saying in this post is true, your attitude about it blows.

Not everyone takes care of fish the same way, not everyone is on this forum either. If someone chooses to do something different, it's not your right to judge them and call them unfit fish keepers. What others do may not be for you, but what you do isn't the be all end all either :)

This quote "Thriving not Surviving" is kinda funny... so a fish Thriving for 2 years is healthier than a fish "Surviving" for 5? Nothing Thriving about a fish that has a shorter life span.

We also gotta take into account that not all fish are coming from the same breeders and areas. Not all fish get the same care at pet stores, not all water and homes are the best either (you could have mold in your air and not know it). Just do the best YOU can, do what you think is right and leave others alone that choose to do things differently than you.

And this isn't just YOU... this is everyone.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:47 PM   #7 
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Not all methods work for everyone. I can tell you that our city water is full of chlorine, I can smell it. I doubt my fish would like to swim in that. Maybe you should get off your high horse and just say you do things differently and leave it at that instead of out right bragging.
No One Cares. The end.
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I do think it is thriving... I havn't seen others that are this size. I am not saying what he is doing is right, mearly stating that some fish might be fine in different scenarios based off its temperament. I also know a goldfish isn't very old, however most people who win cheap goldfish at the fair and keep them in a bowl have them die in a few weeks.
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Nothing Thriving about a fish that has a shorter life span.
OK, I agree, I was a bit angry. However, I don't know how you can justify what you said about the lifespan. Surely a fish which thrived in a large, healthy tank, however sadly died of a sudden, bad illness is better than a fish which survived 5 years in a tiny, stagnant, filthy bowl, swimming in it's own waste? I mean, really?
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OK, I agree, I was a bit angry. However, I don't know how you can justify what you said about the lifespan. Surely a fish which thrived in a large, healthy tank, however sadly died of a sudden, bad illness is better than a fish which survived 5 years in a tiny, stagnant, filthy bowl, swimming in it's own waste? I mean, really?

I have personally SEEN these conditions over the years, and can you explain to me why these fish living in such awful conditions live so long without diseases? But yet our fish that we keep after and clean weekly are getting diseases and dying so early? This is not all cases, for either side mind you.

Don't get me wrong. My boy has a 3gal and water is changed weekly. I also feed live and frozen food. I am by far neglecting my fish, but I don't see the need to jump all over someone who is doing what works for them.

I can see why the first post came off high and mighty, I get a little frustrated too seeing the members here bash people for not doing things they way they see it fit. Not everyone though, but there have been a few who really should have posted to begin with. I have followed advice given to me by pros, that led me to dead fish. Live and learn.
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