Betta Fish Care  
Go Back   Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care > Betta Fish Care
Check out the eBook Betta Fish Care Made Easy
betta fish
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-12-2011, 08:59 PM   #21 
vaygirl
Member
 
vaygirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Middlesex County, NJ
Phillip, I think the problem lies in recommending people do it that way. You don't know their water quality. My water smells like a pool. A fish would die in it without condtioner/dechlorinator. So, taking your advice would end in death in my house. But honestly we take that chance anytime we advise something to someone without knowing everything.

THAT'S why I rely on test kits, the health of my fish, and common sense to tell me what's going on. All the staring in the world won't tell me when my tap water has had a large ph shift and when I should be careful because of it.
vaygirl is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 09:04 PM   #22 
Neil D
Member
 
Neil D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Hiding from The Mods
If it's a problem with "no one talks to you", this isn't the way to go about people 'liking' you. Friend people PM them. We'd be more than happy to chat with you. Go ahead post, but in a more friendly manner.
Neil D is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 09:14 PM   #23 
1fish2fish
Member
 
1fish2fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Savannah, GA
I'll never for the life of me understand why people get a bee in their bonnet about info that conflicts with their beliefs when they come to a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM.

I also don't understand why anyone would brag about keeping their fish in bare bones conditions. Sure the fish may live for x amount of years but shouldn't quality of life be whats important? Especially if this is your pet! I think some people see fish as plants...that is to say less alive than other organisms... if I water it a little and it stays alive I've done a good job when in actuality a good hobbyist not only wants to see the organism live but THRIVE.

I'm not saying that every fish must have a 5 gallon cycled planted tank but no one can deny the basics of water chemistry. No one can sit here and tell me that a fish swimming around in 5ppm of ammonia is a happy and healthy fish. Yeah it may live... but at what cost? I have a theory that one of the reasons you see so many people saying my fish lived x amount of years in a kiddie cup from mcdonadls that never had a water change is because after the ammonia reaches a certain point many of the disease causing agents can't survive in that environment... the fish seem to adapt some how.. doesn't make it right.


There's all kinds of ways of keeping fish. However, Before you go spouting your methods maybe stop and think about the new person in the hobby. How is it going to look when someone says they keep small tanks and never do water changes? Next thing you know new member is crying that flipper has fin rot or dropsy or SBD because that set up DOES NOT work for them.

The socially accepted methods for keeping fish (the ones you see commonly in care guides etc) should be the ones advised because they are the ones most likely to work over a broad range of situations. It is then up to the individual hobbyist to tweak and establish his or her own unique method from there.


One last point. Just because you've seen or heard of a person doing x and y and having their fish survive so many years doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. Goldfish are the prime example because so many people stick them in bowls and think its A OK when in reality if they knew the damage they were doing to that fish's internal organs they would probably be singing a different tune.
1fish2fish is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 09:17 PM   #24 
Neil D
Member
 
Neil D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Hiding from The Mods
^+1

That was intense....
Neil D is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 09:30 PM   #25 
PhilipPhish
Member
 
PhilipPhish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Idaho
again... terribley sorry bout all this. its not worth talkin bout anymore.... so just drop it like rain and forget it.
PhilipPhish is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 09:40 PM   #26 
1fish2fish
Member
 
1fish2fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Savannah, GA
You don't have to apologize. In a way I agree with what you said. But maybe next time think about how the membership will react to what you're saying and maybe go a little more of a diplomatic route instead of coming across as "this is right and all of you are wrong". Also think about the possible ramifications of someone thinking that just because something works for you that it will also work for them.
1fish2fish is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 10:48 PM   #27 
PhilipPhish
Member
 
PhilipPhish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Idaho
thanks 1fish2fish! : ]
PhilipPhish is offline  
Old 07-12-2011, 11:17 PM   #28 
dramaqueen
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Central Texas
Closing thread.
dramaqueen is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how do i take care of a betta fish 2 of them chantz998 Betta Fish Care 12 08-19-2012 11:05 AM
Betta Fish With Bad Care Of Fin Rot bettaowner101 Betta Fish Diseases and Emergencies 46 06-29-2011 01:59 PM
Fish care on a budget. addiep8908 Betta Fish Bowls, Habitats, and Accessories 16 02-02-2011 09:56 PM
How to take care of a chilled fish? Colibri Betta Fish Diseases and Emergencies 26 10-13-2010 11:22 PM
New to fish care, got some questions! UmiKun Betta Fish Care 2 06-30-2009 07:49 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.