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Old 07-20-2011, 12:57 PM   #21 
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He's still pineconed, but every time I lift up the cover he's always moving around. I found him moping at the bottom only once! Feeding him is a damn pain, but I got 1.5 pellets down him yesterday. He's big enough he can't really get to the food if it's on the bottom, so I put him in his little store cup and feed him piece by piece with tweezers.

But, he still loves to eat and still swims actively. Just no smaller. So nothing worse is good. I keep telling myself this.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:05 PM   #22 
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Is he still being treated with Maracyn II also? Puzzled by his lack of shrinkage but DarkMoon will know more. At least he's active, that's good. Hang in there!
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:27 PM   #23 
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Activity is a good sign. I wish the swelling would go down though... It wouldn't hurt to give him some fresh crushed garlic with his anti-bacterial pellets just in case it is parasites. Keep it up!
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:48 PM   #24 
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He's still kind of active, but he's gotten a lot bigger. I don't understand why, though... if I can get a pellet down him, I'll try the garlic.

Agh, I don't want him to go.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:21 AM   #25 
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And he definitely won't eat now either. He has no interest. The bloating has spread everywhere; even his spine is pineconed... is there any hope for him at this point?
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:28 AM   #26 
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It's not sounding so good, no. :( If it seems like he's suffering, you may have to euthanize him. I'm so sorry, he's really fought this for a long time but it sounds like his organs are shutting down. :(
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:36 PM   #27 
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I think I may do it tonight or tomorrow. :/ Ugh, I feel like it is all my fault. I want him to get better, but at the same time I don't want him to suffer.

Putting him in freezing cold water is probably the most humane way, right?
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:44 PM   #28 
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It's not your fault. It sounds like he has a really aggressive infection and some things just can't be cured. You tried your best, so definitely don't think it's your fault. I'm sure Bruce doesn't blame you.

Uhm, actually freezing cold water is considered INhumane. Something to do with they're still alive as the ice crystals form. The most humane way is the one pretty much no one can bring themselves to do: decapitation.

Your next best bet is clove oil. There are instructions on how to use clove oil somewhere on the forum and all over the web. IF you can bring yourself to do this, it's best to destroy the brain afterwards, either by piercing it or crushing it. I know, this is gruesome. But fish brains can live on for a while after the body dies. If you can't bring yourself to do that (and God knows I don't blame you one bit if you can't), maybe let the body sit somewhere for a few hours to guarantee he is truly gone before you bury or otherwise dispose of it.

Ideally, if you can take him to a veterinarian, they may be able to humanely euthanize him for you, possibly free of charge.

Gagh, I hate talking about things like that. I'm so sorry. *hugs*
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:55 PM   #29 
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Oh god, I can't decapitate him. I don't think I can really bring myself to euthanize him, but I definitely can't decapitate him. I'll call my vet and she if she deals with fish...

I think I'm going to give him just a couple more water changes and hope he passes peacefully in the night. I never ever thought I'd cry this much over a fish.

And it really is my fault. I put off one of his water changes for a day and a half. I was a total idiot in doing that, but I was so busy.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:04 PM   #30 
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He may have had something brewing for weeks but it wasn't until he showed any visible signs that you knew he was sick. That's a big problem with fish, we often don't know they're sick until they get dropsy and by then it can be too late. :( And even if he was in a .5g tank, a day and a half without a water change still shouldn't have caused this. There are lots of bettas out there who survive in water that hasn't been changed in weeks or months.

Your veterinarian should be able to euthanize him even if she doesn't normally deal in fish. There are meds that can be overdosed and he will simply go to sleep forever. But I hope for your sake that he does pass peacefully soon so you don't have to deal with euthanization. It's a horrible thing to have to think about with any living animal. :(

Don't forget, Bruce knows you love him. He really honestly does. Bettas know when they are getting good care and love and when they aren't. That's why they bond with us the way few other fish do. I bet if he could he would tell you not to feel so bad.

I know it's rough, hang in there. *BIIIIG hug*
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