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Old 07-19-2011, 04:02 PM   #1 
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Cool possible degenerative fin?

Hey guys, so this is my second post, and after reading other peoples feed back on other fish i think i've narrowed down chibs problem! (you guys are so helpful)

Housing
What size is your tank? 2 gallons
What temperature is your tank? 80 degrees
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? yes one air rock
Is your tank heated? no, but we have no air conditioning so its nice and warm
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? none

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? flakes, freeze dried bloodworms, and frozen brine shrimp
How often do you feed your betta fish? once a day

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change? once a week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 75%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?
I think its a tetra type of decholrinizer, it seems to be good

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? he used to have (an illusion) of one giant fin, now you can very obviously see all three fins
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? still very active, eats as soon as food goes in tank
When did you start noticing the symptoms? about 2 months ago
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? no, i never could figure out what exactly was up, or if anything was wrong at all
Does your fish have any history of being ill? he had ich but quickly recovered after i treated him
How old is your fish (approximately)? its been 5 months since i bought him

SO here is a picture of him when i bought him (first attached photo) the fuzzy one he is swimming up

and then a second is a current
turning to the side, but provides a good example of the seperation
the third is a stage in between (side angle very clear)

SO sorry if the pic attachments arent clear, let me know, and thanks for reading!!!
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:14 PM   #2 
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He might be clamping a bit. It doesn't look like his tail or fins have gotten an smaller other than being clamped.

Try upping the water changes. Ammonia builds up quickly with bettas and even quicker in smaller tanks. Maybe try a 50% change every other day and see if he gets any better.

You can add a little bit of aquarium salt for a short time too in case there may be any fin rot going on. I know some ick medications leave fish open to secondary infections. Try 1 tsp/gal of aquarium salt, but premix it so you don't burn him with the actual salt. Have it in there for a max of 10 days, but try and keep it less.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:26 PM   #3 
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Welcome to the forum...

I am not sure what you are talking about....or I am not seeing what you are seeing......if you are talking about the separation between the bottom fin and the tail (the last pic)...that looks normal...two different fins..caudal fin and anal fin, however, the tail tip look like it may have a chunk or bite taken out of it

In a 2gal unfiltered tank I would increase the water changes to twice weekly...1-50% and 1-100% to maintain water quality and fin health...unless you have live plants....

When making water changes-be sure and try to keep the water temp between the new and old water within a couple of degrees and Always use dechlorinator with any new water added to the tank...Dose the dechlorinator for the full volume of the tank even with partial water changes as a general rule

Right now-I would make 50% water changes for 2 days to get the water quality improved and watch the fins for changes...since he is otherwise acting his normal self.......

Good nutrition is also really important-feed small frequent meals of a good quality varied diet....


You have a beautiful Betta...nice find.....

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:45 PM   #4 
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Yeah I'm sorry that the original is not very clear, and if this is a problem it is in he early stages. What's happening is his fins are individually clamping closer and closer together. I've never seen him biting himself, and he eats all his food and remains very active. There might not be anything wrong but I've been concerned with the hanging appearance
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:46 PM   #5 
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:49 PM   #6 
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I think he's just sensitive to the amount of ammonia in the water. He has the standard veil tail type, which looks like that when they're clamped. Just change the water a little more often and he should stop clamping.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:12 PM   #7 
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