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Old 08-04-2011, 11:45 AM   #1 
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Filter preferred with uncycled 5 gallon?

Hello Everyone!

I recently decided to purchase a betta. I am attracted to the minimalism of having a relatively small tank with a single fish in it. I have no experience with fishkeeping, so I've spent the last week reading through a bunch of old threads. This is a great forum, and I've learned a lot. I do have a few quick questions though.

I plan on getting a 5 gallon tank with a filter and a heater. However, I've read about cycling and decided I'm not going to do it (sounds a bit complicated for my very first aquarium.) So...in a 5 gallon filtered tank with a single fish, how often should I change the water? Based on what I've read so far, I'm thinking a 50% and a 100% per week would be adequate? I'm planning on buying a testing kit, because I'm anal and will be very worried that I'm poisoning the fish.

The idea of doing frequent 100% changes doesn't bother me, but will this stress the fish? It seems like being removed from the tank once a week would be harmful.

Also, since I'm not going to cycle, should I even bother with a filter? If I'm going to have to perform frequent 100% w.c.'s anyways, is there any benefit to be had by purchasing a filter? I have read that it helps the heater heat the tank evenly, but I've also read that bettas prefer still water.

Thanks in advance for the assistance!
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:39 AM   #2 
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Hello and welcome to the forum. I think one 50% and one 100% a week will be fine. If you aren't going to cycle then you won't really need the filter.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:00 PM   #3 
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Hello and welcome to the forum. I think one 50% and one 100% a week will be fine. If you aren't going to cycle then you won't really need the filter.
tbh i dont even think you'll need that much water changing in a 5g. id do a 100% every 2 weeks and see how it goes with that first. use an ammonia test kit (easy to use and cheap to buy). i do a 100% change on my 2.5g (half the size of yours) once a week and its perfect. you wont need a filter if you dont cycle. it'll save you money and trouble
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:08 PM   #4 
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You should use a filter and cycle the tank. It makes life so much easier. Do a fish in cycle and do partial water changes every 2 to 3 days for 4 to 8 weeks. You will be fine.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:09 PM   #5 
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You should use a filter and cycle the tank. It makes life so much easier. Do a fish in cycle and do partial water changes every 2 to 3 days for 4 to 8 weeks. You will be fine.
I concur with this. The tank will cycle--you don't have to do anything special to make it happen. If you go this route, 50% water changes. You'll eventually be able to do them just once a week and the environment will be more stable.

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Old 08-10-2011, 06:03 PM   #6 
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What do you mean by cycle?
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Thanks for all the helpful replies. Perhaps I will try to cycle after all...
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What do you mean by cycle?
To cycle, you need at least a 5 gallon tank (I think), and it has to be filtered. It just means you adhere to certain water changing schedules that allow beneficial ammonia and nitrite-eating bacteria to build up. Once you've done this, apparently the bacteria start doing their thing and you won't have to make as many water changes.

I'm sure someone who's actually done it will be along shortly to give you a better explanation.
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Thanks for the reply. I will try and do that.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:27 AM   #10 
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Do you know anyone with a larger tank that they've had for a while with a filter on it? You could shake the filter media into a bag of tank water and put it into your 5g with your Betta. It will polinate your tank with good bacteria from an established cycled tank. If you know of anyone that has an extra sponge (I have two in my filter so I can help local people get a tank going) then you can put the sponge in your filter and you'll be cycled in no time.

Get yourself a master kit for water chemistry. I promise, best thing you will ever buy for your tank. Test your ammonia daily until you see it spike (goes high) and then start testing your nitrites as well as your ammonia. Do water changes, nothing over 50% or you could be killing your good bacteria. You should see ammonia start to drop and nitrites go up. When your nitrites spike, you'll have no ammonia but you'll see nitrates pop up. Keep testing nitrites and nitrates until there are no nitrites left and your nitrates settle under 20ppm.

So really the whole cycle thing is...

fish produce ammonia > nitrItes eat ammonia > nitrAtes eat nitrItes. Cycling is waiting for everything to develop. Ammonia and NitrItes are poisonous to fish.

Get some low light easy to care for live plants, they will help.

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My question to others is.. if water conditioners will turn ammonia in ammonium, will the nitrites still see ammonium as food?
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