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Old 02-19-2014, 10:11 AM   #1 
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Possible Dropsy with my Betta?

I have noticed that my fish Marty has not been as active. I looked up possible signs of illness and I saw Dropsy was an illness that some bettas get. I took a few pictures. If you have time, can you let me know your thoughts? I have only had Marty for about 8 months and he is my first fish.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:12 AM   #2 
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Here is another pic of Marty.
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:41 PM   #3 
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Hi Marty,

Please fill the form below out as it's almost impossible to diagnose otherwise. The pictures don't make it seem like dropsy. Dropsy is a condition brought on by kidney failure which usually physically appears as swelling and the scales sticking out (this is called "pineconing").

Housing
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What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

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What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
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Symptoms and Treatment
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Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:11 AM   #4 
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Hi Marty1. The reddish purple discoloration around his gills leads me to think it may be a high ammonia/nitrate situation. Im interested in the form being filled out to be sure. I agree with CooperS that it does not look like dropsy.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:48 AM   #5 
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From the picture, it does not look like dropsy as his scales are not sticking out.
One way to tell is to look at him from the top down, if his scales stick out like a pinecone - its dropsy.

When and how often do you do water changes??
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:32 PM   #6 
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I do 10% water changes every week. He is in a 10 gallon tank heated at 80 degrees. What is the best nitrate rate? Should ammonia be at 0?
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:50 PM   #7 
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In a 10g I always do at least 50% per week. Ammonia should be zero but when it gets between .25 and .5 a water change is needed imo. Ammonia poisoning is common with betta and a good cure is to add 2-5 drops of Methylene Blue per gallon preferably in a 1-2 g container outside of the aquarium via fish dip in his old tank water for 30 minutes or so. Don't pour the treated water back into the aquarium just throw it away. A couple treatments every day for 3 days should fix him up. The MB gets the oxygen back into his bloodstream.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:58 PM   #8 
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Ammonia level is 0 and Nitrate level is between 0 and 5.0. The color of the nitrate test is not as dark as 5.0. I am using the API liquid tests, not the strips.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:11 PM   #9 
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Ammonia might be closer to .25 than 0. I am going to do a 50% water change tonight. I got Marty a snail for a tank mate about a month ago. Maybe I should have increased the water changes. I am sure it increased the bio load. The snail poops a lot.

Since this is most likely an ammonia issue, is it safe to say Marty will be ok as long as I increase the water changes?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:19 PM   #10 
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If you increase the water changes it will certainly help. Using the MB rapidly increases the recovery time. I would hate to tell you he will be ok without it then have him get worse. Snails do add quite the bioload given their small size. Many LFS have MB but you can also find Betta Revive which has MB as a main ingredient.
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