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Old 08-23-2011, 02:22 PM   #11 
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I dont wanna sound harsh, but I think its in EVERYONES best interest if you listen to the previous posts. TAKE THE GOLDFISH BACK! From your posts, it seems like you are not in the most secure of finacial positions to take on more responsibility. You will need a 30 GALLON TANK for those 3 goldfish. 8L WILL NOT CUT IT. A 30 gallon tank can cost upwards of 700$!
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:17 PM   #12 
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You need to change the water 100% as well as scrub and completely disinfect the tank.
You don't know why Charlie died. If you put Desmond or any other fish in there, you leave them susceptible to any disease(s) Charlie had. Make a mixture of bleach and water and clean the tank, gravel and any and all decor.
8L is way WAY too small for one goldfish, nevermind 2. 8L is only 2 gallons. I really think you should take the goldfish back, and focus on Desmound for now, unless your payday is very soon. Like, this week.
If you do keep the goldfish you should make everyday changes on the tank, as well as have an aireator. Goldfish get their oxygen from the water, and they need ALOT of oxygen.
I agree with Aven.
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:19 AM   #13 
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My payday is next tuesday. But the pet store wouldn't take them back anyway.
I got my parent's old tank which is 15-16L. Still not big enough but I think an improvement for them. Scrubbed the #$%^ out of it and have got them set up in there. I went and bought a heater for desmond as well, scrubbed the hell out of the 8L tank and set him up in there.
I have found a place which does take home lay by for aquarium equipment and leasing so tomorrow I will go and check them out. I'm usually in a better financial position than I am right now, it's just moving + bills which I'm going to have to pay myself as my old housemates are evil and it's not in their name therefore not their issue in their mind. And a $3000 tax check arriving in the next ten days which should put me back to normal.
But if I do a take home layby on the one I want it should be fine as it is just an initial deposit then something like $38 a week til it is paid for. (is better than rental where you end up paying more than the worth).


I also went to an actual aquarium place today and the guy there gave me actual correct advice (as far as I can tell) and he seems to think it should be ok for now.

In regards to the heater... I got an adjustable one, he said to set it no higher than 22c for now (thermometer says that is 72f). I know the optimum temp for bettas is higher than that, but he said it's better if I just crank it up a couple of degrees a day til I reach the right temp so as not to cause too much of a shock to his system?

Also he seems much happier in the new tank already. :)

Hmmm this post is going on forever. My boyfriend's father has a fish pond.But the goldfish in it are quite large. I was thinking about asking him to take them but won't they get eaten??
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:30 AM   #14 
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Yeah thats a great idea, not an expert on goldfish, but I dont think theyll get eaten.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:22 AM   #15 
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What advice did this guy give you?
Desmounds set up sounds great. :)
The lay by place sounds great, I wish we had a place like that here. Hopefully you can find a suitable sized tank for a good monthly rate. If you can't, then I suggest you put them in the pond at your boyfriend's father's house. If the fish you have are small enough to fit in the goldfish mouths, then its not a good idea. Wait until the grow a bit bigger.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:53 AM   #16 
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I keep goldfish, and I agree with kathstew. The goldfish would need a tank of 40 gallons, 20 for the first fish, 10 for the second and 10 for the third. However, black moors have eyesight isssues do to their eye positons and you must be extremely careful not to place anything rough in their tank. Aswell, common goldfish are are much faster than black moors and it is advised you dont keep the two breeds together.

The pond should be alright, provided the goldfish are not small enough to fit in the mouths of the larger fish. Your boyfriends father must make sure the goldfish get their fair share of food, and must take them out if their are sny problems they have with pondlife.

If the goldfish are still small, its a good idea to buy them a 40 gallon and wait for them to grow. The larger the tank the better, as goldfish grow larger in bigger tanks. By feeding them nutricous foods such as frozen bloodworms, frozen brineshrimp, freezedried bloodworms, orange slices, peas, lettuce and zuchini, you can encourage their growth even more. Clean water also helps. I, personally, would add the goldfish when they are a 1/4-1/2 size of the pond fish. Are the fish in the pond Koi?

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Old 08-24-2011, 11:28 AM   #17 
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Hmmm to be honest, I have no idea what size/type goldfish they are, I just remember they're quite large... I would trust him to take proper care of them though, he has a very large tropical aquarium and is a science teacher specialising in biology and has kept fish for many years. (actually should have probably asked him for advice from the get go). I will ask him tomorrow what he thinks is the best thing to do; I'm pretty sure from memory that his ones are well over 4x the size of my 3, so I don't think it's appropriate yet.

He basically just taught me about how to keep the water optimal & most stuff I've learned since joining this site as well, but in more detail. :) I'm also going to take some water from both tanks to him tomorrow so it can be tested so if I haven't set it up correctly it can be remedied asap.
http://www.aquadisiacstore.com.au/main.html
This is the store I went to today

Anyway, all of them seem to be doing much better after today (and their 3rd change in 4-5 days, poor things :(). Oh well, I will try my best and organise a rental/take home layby on a sufficient tank for the goldfish asap
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:29 AM   #18 
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Ooh sorry I meant to ask - with the lettuce, orange slices, zucchini etc... do you mean fresh??
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:20 PM   #19 
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For the peas, buy frozen unsalted peas. Microwave them for a few seconds in water, then Pop the peas out of their shells, smush and feed. Feed once or twice a week.

Lightly blanch zuchini and rinse spinach and lettuce leaves. You can buy food clips at some pet stores that come with suction cups. You can attach the suction cup to the tank wall and attach a lettuce or spinach leaf to the clip for your goldies to snack on.

Oranges are a little more tricky. All they need is one slice which you can place in the tank. Only feed oranges right before water changes as they can foul the water.

Goldfish have huge bioloads and can dirty their tank quickly. Reguar water changes are nessacary.

Because you have Commons in with a Black Moor you have to be extremely careful that they all get their fair share of food. Black Moor are slow moving and prefer deeper tanks, while Common love to zoom around.
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