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Old 09-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #81 
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Dont worry if her behavior is changing for the better she may have just lost her eggs.. it happens sometimes if the female becomes to eggy before the male can get to her. And she can still produce enough eggs to get a spawn I wouldnt worry to much.
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So do you think I should release her and see what happens?
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:17 PM   #83 
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Sure why not :) if you feel safe doing so
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:27 PM   #84 
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Well, I released her but then I had to take her out... She wasn't doing well and getting beat up by Zuko.. Btw how much beating up i ok? He was chasing her like crazy and she would end up breathing heavily and hiding. I'm going to condition her some more and try later but somehow I think she just isn't the type. :/ I'm putting in another girl I conditioned.. She has the stripes, the spot and everything..

But seriously, just so I don't panic and pull her out, how much violence is ok?
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As weird as it it a lot of violence. Chasing nipping its all part of the game, the stress stripes also mean submission so if she still keeping her dominant/ breeding vertical stripes chasing is normal. I have noticed my males chase them until for hours and beat them up and suddenly after a day they get it and breed. This is why I put them in at night gets the chasing out of their system in the dark when its a little difficult to find one another. The breathing heavy and hiding is normal as long as the male goes back once and a while to check on the nest he isnt being territorial aggressive.. just breeding aggressive. The only thing to look out for and I only remove them, is when the male starts ignoring the nest and just relentless chasing thats a major sign its not working.
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She scattered the nest only a bit is left but he started fixing it and he would sort of give her time when she stopped to breathe but then start chasing again. He would flare and then show himself to her sideways, then rub rub rub and nip and then chase. -__- Is that territorial or breeding aggressive? I'm hoping that its breeding aggressive because I doubt he'd rub her otherwise lol!
I didn't know the breeding stripes were a sign of dominance, I always thought they were just breeding or submission signs! So I actually have to wait till she's stressy for them to breed? How strange. :/ I'm learning all sorts of things!
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Nope he is doing exactly what he should :) Its more of a she will get stressed and then realize what she has to do. Which is go to him and he will realize chasing her isnt going to get him what he wants all the time. The male is trying to lure her to the nest she probably already submitted to him. They do stay stripped like that (breeding stripes) after she has relinquished dominance. But its the reason that the most dominant female in the sorority is always striped like that and the bottom ones are stripped horizontal. Of course horizontal stripes can also be normal coloring lol there are a lot of exceptions to rules. :p If you feel comfortable I would keep them together
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I'll have to do that in the morning, my sister's sleeping in the room now and I'd have to turn on the light to remove the chimney. :( I'm glad that all this is normal, I think I'm more comfortable now with the whole thing.. It looks violent to us but I guess its natural to them. :D Thank you so much for all the advice and all the putting up with my silly questions (which be sure you will hear more of! Hehe!) I'm always afraid that if I leave the room and don't supervise they'll murder each other! That's the main reason I'm so paranoid! D:

Its weird how Peaches didn't give a crap about Zuko but Awesome Sauce went nuts as soon as she saw the guy!
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Each girl is different and every fish is too... I try not to worry to hard and your questions arent dumb :)
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That's tru.. Peaches was more interested in me and thinking about whether I'm going to feed her or not. -__- These two just ignore me completely!
And lol! They are a bit, c'mon.. You're just being nice!
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