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Old 10-11-2011, 01:04 PM   #1 
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Sorority Issues

My sorority is kept in my friend's apartment that I'll be moving into shortly. I was over yesterday for WCs and noticed one of the girls was bloaty and off by herself. I took her home with me, set her up in a 1g with 1tsp of epsom salt, heated to about 82. As the night went on she only got bigger and I noticed white poo. She wasn't pineconing. This morning she had passed. Not quite sure what I did wrong.
Today my roomie noticed 2 more girls are bloated. I think one may just be from overfeeding because she likes to steal other's pellets (we usually have to net her to feed the rest) but the other is pretty bad, she's also striped.
Am I doing water changes correctly? 20g heated, filtered, live plants. I also have some bulbs in there and one looks a little..fuzzy? Could this be making them sick? The photo is of the sicker girl he just sent me, in the upper right corner is the less-bloated one.

Housing
What size is your tank? 20g
What temperature is your tank? 78-80
Does your tank have a filter? Yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Is your tank heated? Yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? There are 8 females

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Aqueon Pellets / Hikari Bloodworms
How often do you feed your betta fish? 2-3 twice a day / weekly treat

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change? Twice a week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 20%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? Stress Coat+

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

n/a

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Bloated
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? Lethargic
When did you start noticing the symptoms? Yesterday
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? Tried epsom salt
Does your fish have any history of being ill? No
How old is your fish (approximately)? Unknown
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:11 PM   #2 
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I'm no expert, but I'm wondering if she might just be super eggy
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:17 PM   #3 
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I will note, as I have had some problems with both egg and livebearers... If they are having problems, with their eggs? Like silverfang said, she does look eggy. Although not super common, egg and live bearers can have complications, leading to death in some cases.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:30 PM   #4 
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I'm no expert, but I'm wondering if she might just be super eggy
I thought that could have been the problem with the first girl, but all 3?
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:34 PM   #5 
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With my girls, one gets really fat with eggs, and another eats everything... And looks like that :)

Well, if you worry it's the bulbs.. What kind are they?
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:54 PM   #6 
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They are water lily bulbs. One is sprouting and the other looks a little fuzzy.

If they are just eggy, what should I be doing for them?
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:27 PM   #7 
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I personally do not know what to do if they are eggy.. usually they absorb the eggs, or release them unfertilized... or they should.

Sure it is not swim bladder? Today I've seen an entire 20 gallon infested with SBD... And also what are they fed?
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:56 PM   #8 
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They seem to be swimming fine, they're pretty active, just very bloated. I'm thinking maybe take those 2 girls out and start epsom salt just in case?
They're fed Aqueon Betta Pellets, which I've learned aren't so great, so once I get paid I'm going to switch. They each get 2 or 3 twice a day, and Hikari FD bloodworms once a week instead of the pellets.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:08 PM   #9 
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White poo is also the main sign (other then bloating) for parasites.. which could explain why multiple girls have it.

Perform daily 100% water changes (if possible, for larger aquariums change 3/4). Make sure you carefully clean the gravel to remove eggs/larva. Aq.Salt does not seem to be affective against internal parasites. I find combining ES with an anti-parasite med is best. Treat with 1-2tsp/gal Epsom Salt combined with either Jungle’s Anti-Parasite Pellets, Jungle’s Parasite Clear Fizz tabs or API General Cure.

It is worth a shot.. the ES will help with the bloating even if it isn't parasites..
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:43 PM   #10 
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Oh I hope it isn't parasites >.< I have live plants in the tank, would the salt and medication kill them? Or can I move each girl to a 1g for treatment?
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