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Old 11-26-2011, 06:45 PM   #31 
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I see.

That makes a lot more sense now. So just smashing would be best or decapitation?

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Old 11-26-2011, 06:50 PM   #32 
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Yeah, just like zombies, decapitation or destruction of the brain/spinal cord is most humane..

The problem is, especially with fry, their heads are so small, and if they're flopping around. Ptaflala recommends wrapping them in a wet paper towel to reduce stress for them and mess for us. Stunning them in clove oil before decapitating them will insure they're not flopping around as well.
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Old 11-26-2011, 07:52 PM   #33 
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Yeah, just like zombies, decapitation or destruction of the brain/spinal cord is most humane..

The problem is, especially with fry, their heads are so small, and if they're flopping around. Ptaflala recommends wrapping them in a wet paper towel to reduce stress for them and mess for us. Stunning them in clove oil before decapitating them will insure they're not flopping around as well.
All of what you said is true, but why would you cull a fry that small? You wouldn't be able to if it should even be culled.

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Old 11-26-2011, 08:04 PM   #34 
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Some fry have bent spines or deformed bodies/organs that are evident almost immediately.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:10 PM   #35 
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According to the AVMA, freezing or "cooling" is not recommend nor proven to be humane.

The AVMA accepts the following methods of euthanasia as humane for fish: pithing/brain destruction, CO2, injection of sodium pentobarbital, immersion in tricane methane sulfonate, immersion in benzocaine hydrochloride, immersion in 2-phenoxyethanol, anesthesia followed by decapitation/pithing, and decapitation w/pithing. To read about these methods in detail, click here.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:16 PM   #36 
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Oh, I see. With bent spines or something that is physically noticeable, can a fish "outgrow" it or maybe even have it corrected in some way? Or is it just impossible?

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Not that I know of - once bent, they either stay that way or become worse. But straight spines sometimes becomes bent when older.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:21 AM   #38 
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Just like humans. It is the same thing with humans. We get older and (sometimes) people's spine's bend.

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Old 11-27-2011, 04:21 AM   #39 
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No the spine being bent seems to be permanent...I also have some flaty fry and usually they come out healthy and great, but once EVERY fry came out in an "L" shape and couldnt swim, which I only noticed after netting them and putting them in a 1 gal. It was sad realizing they all needed to be culled, but fortunately I have lots of hungry betta and one hungry goldfish who were happy to cull them for me.
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Just like humans. It is the same thing with humans. We get older and (sometimes) people's spine's bend.

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Similar but not the same. In bettas it's more genetic related - though sometimes it could happen due to some sort of injury like when netted and they get stuck or something.

In humans it's more injury or lack of calcium .... I think..... though sometimes it can be genetic.
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