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Old 11-27-2011, 09:41 PM   #1 
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Question my fish is acting weird.

yesterday & the whole day today hes been with no energy at all, he just stays there and only moves a little bit, i gave him food but he hasn't eating none of the pallets. he would go crazy for the food. now he just stays still at the bottom of the tank and doesn't eat, he doesn't even notice the food when its right in front of him. could he be blind? i hope he gets better because he is a boring fish right now !

any suggestions?
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:58 PM   #2 
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Maybe he's cold?
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:02 AM   #3 
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Could be a few different things... to help figure it out, we will need some answers.

What size tank is he in, and what is your schedule for cleaning? (% and how many times per week/month)
Is the tank heated? What is the temp?
Do you use water conditioner each time you do a water change? What type of water are you using? (Tap, well, bottled, etc)
Any other signs of illness? Loss of color, gasping, extended stomach, etc.
If you have a water test kit, what are the results of it?

As mentioned, it could be a couple different things causing him to be "boring".. not enough water changes, too cold of water, illness, etc.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:36 AM   #4 
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What size tank is he in? 2 L

what is your schedule for cleaning? once a week
Is the tank heated? no
What is the temp? cold
Do you use water conditioner each time you do a water change? yes
What type of water are you using? sink(unfiltered)
Any other signs of illness? no

I think the water is cold, right now he seems to be moving and all the pallets he didn't eat, he ate them. i guess they just have there moments.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:55 AM   #5 
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Unfortunately 2L is a bit small to heat a tank properly. Bettas are tropical fish and need temperatures in the range of 78-82 to thrive and be healthy. Your little guy is freezing. If you have access to a larger container it would help a lot! Also once a week for 2L is not enough to keep the water at a clean level to prevent disease. In that size container you would need to do daily 100% water changes. Where are you located? If you're near a walmart or pet store they usually sell cheap containers that hold at least 2 gallons which is safer to heat and provide your betta with room to swim and explore.
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:31 PM   #6 
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Unfortunately 2L is a bit small to heat a tank properly. Bettas are tropical fish and need temperatures in the range of 78-82 to thrive and be healthy. Your little guy is freezing. If you have access to a larger container it would help a lot! Also once a week for 2L is not enough to keep the water at a clean level to prevent disease. In that size container you would need to do daily 100% water changes. Where are you located? If you're near a walmart or pet store they usually sell cheap containers that hold at least 2 gallons which is safer to heat and provide your betta with room to swim and explore.

oh wow daily :/ i mean the water only gets dirty after about 4 days. but i know i will need to buy a bigger tank eventually, thank you. right now hes back to normal. i guess he got use to the cold water, or it got a little bit warm.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:37 PM   #7 
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2L is too small to heat, and it's really too small for your betta too. :/ I'd suggest getting a tank of at LEAST 2 gallons, with a heater, and perhaps some caves/plants too. It should perk him right up. Bettas are Tropical fish, after all, and cold water and small space is going to make for a very, 'boring' fish. ;]
Good luck!
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:29 AM   #8 
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Since it's already been mentioned about the heating.. then I will hit on a few other points.

With a half gallon (2L) you will want to be doing 2 50% and 1 100% water changes per week- even a small tank such as that, the water can be too clean. He needs the pathogens and such to have a healthy immunity- add that in with the cold water, he can easily become sickly.
As far as "dirty" water- you have to keep in mind, the deadliest water condition is invisible.. ammonia/nitrates. Which builds up quickly the smaller the tank, and will cause harm and death if not cared for properly. You don't need to be doing daily 100% water changes as that can actually do more harm then good.

Even 1 gallons (4L) you can heat with a small mini heater of 10-15 watts. Not to mention enough room for some sort of plants and cave- as they do much better when they feel secure.

It's not a matter of "becoming used to" cold water- they are fish, not people.. their body works better in what is proper for them. They can live in cooler water for a bit, but it will always catch up to them, and they may lose years off their already too-short of lives.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:47 AM   #9 
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oh wow daily :/ i mean the water only gets dirty after about 4 days
Physically it may only look dirty after 4 days, but as mentioned above - you can't see ammonia and it will build up quickly in a small tank. Every time the go to the bathroom and every time they breathe they are releasing ammonia. If the levels of ammonia are high enough, it can kill the fish.

As for the size, if you want to give them more room but are on a budget, a see through storage container will work. A 2 gallon one would be less then $5 and you will have room for a heater and some decorations . Its not the most attractive solution, but its cheap and makes the fish happy. I have one girl in a one gallon container till i figure out what to do with her. She seems rather content swimming around her plastic bamboo plant and exploring her hideously ugly neon pink cave.

I'm not trying to harp on the heater subject but they seriously do the fish a world of wonder. I live in Alaska and its when it gets to -40F outside (which it was all last week), it gets pretty chilly in here. Once some of the fish that didn't have heaters were added to tanks with heaters, it was like they were a different fish. They had brighter color, more active, their fins unclamped...

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Old 11-29-2011, 09:03 AM   #10 
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Sorry about the misinformation regarding daily 100% changes for a .5 gal. I read that when i first joined. At the same time for that little amount of water, it seems strange that it would be the same changing schedule as a 2-3 gallon container.
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