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Old 02-04-2012, 02:00 AM   #211 
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very nice corn snake. a few weeks back id have said i didnt have the equipement for it ie heat lamp, 20g long tank. now id say i just dont have the space to put it on any sort of table. i only have room for a floor level tank and i dont think my parent would appreciate that much. i live by myself now but the usual snake paranoia exists. my gecko has taken up residence in the last spot on the desk. as i said before id love a yellow blotched pit viper but thats a bit too advance for me to seriously entertain.

do you know if garter snakes are venomous? wikipedia says they are mildly poisonous but the strength and delivery system (chewing) are far from idea.

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Old 02-04-2012, 03:45 AM   #212 
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Garter snakes are rear fanged, but at most your finger will swell if they bite you. And thats if they can even get those rear fangs into you, they are in the BACK of their mouths, and they are small.

Garters are pretty good snakes, but imo a bit of a pain to start out with them as babies. They are too small for even pinky mice when they are born. So when feeding invertebrates and earth worms you have to be sure to add vitamins and calcium and such and provide a lot of variety. Others will argue that it is still pretty simple to feed them, I just never felt like dealing with slicing up food for them, lol! But they are very easy snakes compared to many, and quite a few fun colors to choose from.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:06 AM   #213 
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Hey purplemuffin I have a question, what is wrong when a ball python always has bad sheds? My sister has one, just saying she shouldn't have pets, but she has two dogs and a ball python from her ex. The problem with her, she doesn't know squat and doesn't like to research how to care for her pets.

I was thinking humidity but I am not very educated on ball pythons.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:47 PM   #214 
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Ball pythons need a fair bit of humidity. Screen lids in aquarium allow almost all the humidity to go out of the tank. Good ways to improve humidity is to color most of the lid and to move the water bowl to the warm end of the tank. The evaporation will help improve humidity. :)
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Garter snakes are rear fanged, but at most your finger will swell if they bite you. And thats if they can even get those rear fangs into you, they are in the BACK of their mouths, and they are small.

Garters are pretty good snakes, but imo a bit of a pain to start out with them as babies. They are too small for even pinky mice when they are born. So when feeding invertebrates and earth worms you have to be sure to add vitamins and calcium and such and provide a lot of variety. Others will argue that it is still pretty simple to feed them, I just never felt like dealing with slicing up food for them, lol! But they are very easy snakes compared to many, and quite a few fun colors to choose from.
snakes are always amazing me as to what they have adapted to. until yesterday i believed they were venomless. ive held garter once in the park, smelled pretty bad from living in a municipal park. i was always interested in snakes when i was young. theres a stone construction bbq at our campsite which the garters love basking on. i always checked and looked for garters there.

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Probably was actually the garter 'musking'.. They will release a foul odor to get you to put them down! Also sometimes makes them poop on you, it's gross. All snakes can musk, but wild ones and certain species(colubrids) are more prone!
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Probably was actually the garter 'musking'.. They will release a foul odor to get you to put them down! Also sometimes makes them poop on you, it's gross. All snakes can musk, but wild ones and certain species(colubrids) are more prone!
that dirty little snake, he was rather calm either way. i actually liked holding him had he not decided to musk. im not good at catching them but i did catch him like one would for a cobra ie pin the head with a stick them grab behind the head.
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:) Heehee, they are little tricksters. He may have seemed calm, but he was probably very scared, imagine you were as small as he and a giant pinned you down! Woah! I'd probably pee myself too! Hahaha! But the amazing thing is with taming and being in captivity they learn a lot of trust and are much calmer. I've never been musked on by any of my pet snakes. But boy those wild ones! Heheheh!

We have more smooth brown snakes here than garters. We always see tiny babies. They look like earth worms! These are sort of bigger ones.





SO tiny! And cute.
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i saw a nice young corn snake at an LPS its an albino but its $100. its was about 1.5 times longer than that baby brown snake.
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That's a ridiculous price. Albino corn snakes should be like, 30 dollars. Pet stores way over charge for reptiles!
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