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Old 12-27-2011, 01:05 AM   #1 
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Switching Substrate - Does This Work?

I'm switching substrates in one of my tanks so what I'm planning on doing is taking the fish out and putting them somewhere temporary, taking a few adult Malaysian Trumpet Snails out, and then treating the entire tank with API AlgaeFix to get rid of beard algae.

Here's the tricky part: I have who knows how many baby MTS snails in the substrate and I'm worried that when I dispose of the old substrate, the snails can get into the local environment. I've heard snails are sensitive to chemicals so cruel as it sounds, I'm hoping the AlgaeFix kills the babies so I don't have to worry (main reason why I haven't used the AlgaeFix so far). If not, is there anything else I can put in the tank that will kill them? Short of panning for baby snails ala gold miner and then smashing the ones I find, I don't know how else to ensure the babies don't get into the local ecology.

I really hope this is the last time I have to switch substrates. >.<
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:30 AM   #2 
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I was doing some surfing for you and while I haven't looked at the page fully, I'm hoping this'll be a bit of helpful advice:

http://www.applesnail.net/content/va...radication.htm

Hope you take care of that snail problem. Sounds like a very obnoxious ordeal >.<
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:39 PM   #3 
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Thanks, Draug. That was sweet of you to look this up for me. Most of the pages I found about getting rid of snails just said "Get a clown loach." >.< Right, I'm going to stuff a 12" clown loach into my 20g to eat snails.
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #4 
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No prob ^.^ I just hope it helps.... I HATE when all you get is advice like that! Especially when you spend hours upon hours looking around for something that makes sense, especially when your tank has specific needs that need to be taken into consideration instead of ".... get a clown loach. That doesn't work? Get clown loach!" I can only imagine what horrid advice that would be if someone else had the same problem with, say, a 5 gallon or smaller!
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:53 PM   #5 
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I don't worry about mine, I just put them in newspaper and smash em or I flush em when they get mixed into water changes. I am sure the chlorine in the water and whatever chemicals they use at the water plant would take care of them.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:09 PM   #6 
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Try using a copper-heavy chemical... most ich meds have this.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:35 PM   #7 
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The tank is empty now and I've been sifting around in the mud for the adults but so far I haven't found any. Wonder if they all died while I wasn't looking? I had to switch filters and my tank did experience a mini-crash.

Copper-base meds. Got it. Thanks Pew.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:39 PM   #8 
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It sounds horrible but I dump my unwanted snails in bleach. They die instantly (or at least it seems). I don't worry about it too much, I doubt they feel much pain at all for the few seconds it takes for them to die.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:54 PM   #9 
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Can't be any worse than dumping salt on them or some other method. Bleach actually sounds nicer than salt.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:57 PM   #10 
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I heard it somewhere some time ago. It seems to be the most humane method I can find. One of the hazards in having snails in your spawning tanks is that you will occasionally have to commit what I call "snailocide" because the populations just get too big.
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