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Old 01-01-2012, 02:31 PM   #1 
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Cycling question...

I am going to to a fishless cycle of cycling, and I was wondering if using fish flakes would be a way? And after I cycle will I ever have to do a 100% change again?
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:45 PM   #2 
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Water changes will still be required.
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:47 PM   #3 
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Sorry, it depends on the tank size if you'll need to do a 100%, and it may occasionally be necessary in the future.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:04 PM   #4 
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What size is the tank, type of filter, any live plants, substrate and how deep, type of additive you will be using (dechlorinator) what is the finial stocking plan and what kind of test kit are you using.

While using fish food will work for the fishless cycle-often it can cause bad bacteria that can end badly once you stock the tank and not recommended.

The best ammonia source for fishless cycling is pure ammonia.
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:52 PM   #5 
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I have a 5gal, powerfilter, no live plants, I can't remember what they are called but they are little glass rocks, and Bettasafe. Where can I get pure ammonia?
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You can usually get pure ammonia a most hardware stores...

What kind of testing products do you have on hand? Doing the fishless cycle can be much harder without a test kit since you need to maintain the ammonia level daily-while you can have your water tested at the pet shop-having it done daily might be a pain....

You can safely establish the nitrogen cycle in a filtered tank with the Betta and without a test kit on hand-provided that you are willing and able to make the needed water changes....
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:28 AM   #7 
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Well idk.... I don't want to harm my bettas, but, if you could give me more information on how I could do that it would be helpful.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:32 AM   #8 
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Actually I don't have a test kit... When I got my bettas I had never heard of cycling an aquarium... I had a betta before a few years ago and I was never informed about that.... And right now I'm broke :/
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:45 AM   #9 
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In a 5gal filtered tank with a single Betta without a test kit on hand....getting the nitrogen cycle established safely....

Make 50% water changes with vacuum weekly-this is the water change you will do for the life of the tank to maintain water quality......for the next 4-6 weeks while you are establishing the nitrogen cycle-make an extra 50% water only weekly between your regular 50% with vacuum to be safe....

Filter media-best to not clean this for the first 4 weeks-then give it a swish/rinse in the bucket of old tank water with a water change a couple of times a month to get the big pieces of gunk off=it should look dirty this is the good bacteria.....

The beneficial bacteria for the nitrogen cycle are sticky and adhere to all the surface areas in the tank, in the top layer of the substrate and in the filter media-very little are in the water column itself and so water only changes will not hurt the process, however, over cleaning can-don't vacuum more than weekly, only vacuum in places you can reach without moving anything around in the tank like the decoration or clean the filter media in chlorinated water...it can take 4-8 weeks for the nitrogen cycle to establish as long as you provide oxygen, food source and surface area it will happen on its own given enough time......
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:43 PM   #10 
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How do I know the cycle is done? BTW I'm trying to make the 5gal a divided tank with two bettas, so idk if it would be a good idea to try that with 2 bettas. I know that the more fish the more waste.
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