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Old 04-20-2014, 02:11 AM   #491 
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Hi Daniella,

Potassium permanganate is an oxidizing salt that is very effective for external issues. However, Mycobacteria often infects the fish internally as well as externally. It's thought (from the little that I've been able to find written about it) that the "graphite" coloration of the fins probably occurs due to tissue death as the internal organs begin to shut down.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:37 AM   #492 
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I see, I was just wondering if anyone tried the PP treatment and if it was effective or not.

I had no idea that organ failure could cause the fins to die like that. I would be more thinking of dropsy or something similar.


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Hi Daniella,

Potassium permanganate is an oxidizing salt that is very effective for external issues. However, Mycobacteria often infects the fish internally as well as externally. It's thought (from the little that I've been able to find written about it) that the "graphite" coloration of the fins probably occurs due to tissue death as the internal organs begin to shut down.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:22 AM   #493 
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That's been one of the problems. Myco presents in varied ways. The bacteria has a slow growth rate. Therefore, it's often considered a wasting condition where the fish loses overall condition. There is often not anything definitive that someone can point to and have an "Aha, I know what I'm dealing with" moment.

Sometimes, people notice lesions, or bloating, or dropsy, or other signs. Other times, the condition causes stress on the immune system, allowing secondary infections to set in. As a result, the fish dies from Columnaris or another disease.

As for the graphite fins, I suspect that as the organs die, it's the extremities that are affected first. For people, that would be feet and hands. For fish, it would be fins.

One of the issues with using antibiotics and/or other treatments is that they aren't effective against Myco. (It has a waxy coating which protects it.) But using antibiotics will kill the competing bacteria in the tank. This allows the Myco to have better access to nutrients, which actually promotes its growth (although it continues to remain a relatively slow growing type of bacteria).
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:14 AM   #494 
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I got my betta 3 weeks. Ago. Appears healthy but maybe starting to develop pop eye. I have just add 1 tbsp of aquarium salt 1tbsp per5 gallons. I just might to be overacting to his eyes. Will aquarium salt help?
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:14 PM   #495 
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Hi Bcyr,

Welcome to the forum. Could you please start a new thread about your Betta? This way, more people will see it and be able to reply.

To start a new thread:
1) Click here: Diseases/Emergencies Info form..
2) Highlight and copy the information in the form.
3) Return the Diseases/Emergencies forum. Start a new thread by clicking the "New Thread" button (located above the list of current theads).
4) Past the Info form into your post. Answer the questions as best you can. If possible, post photos too.

Doing this will give people information about your fish and his current condition.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:50 PM   #496 
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i bought a betta and he was in perfect condition but then i saw this grey-brownish spot in his tail and now hour later he has a hole, help me, i dont want him to die D:

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Old 05-13-2014, 01:13 AM   #497 
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That's just a tear. It's nothing to worry or stress about. Although, it looks like your betta might have fin rot as well. Or maybe he's recovering. I can't tell all that well from the picture. You should either create a new thread for suggestions or do 100% water changes daily to help his tail grow back.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:27 AM   #498 
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i bought a betta and he was in perfect condition but then i saw this grey-brownish spot in his tail and now hour later he has a hole, help me, i dont want him to die D:

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Use some aquarium salt in your tank to help it along, keep the water super clean and warm, and use an antibacterial treatment.

Here's a good page about betta diseases.
http://bubblesandbettas.blogspot.com...-diseases.html

See the pinhole fin rot? Looks familiar, right?

Also, you might want to make sure you're doing enough water changes, and using good water conditioner like Prime.

Find out if your water changes are enough:
http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=115758

Hope that helps. If he keeps having problems, post a new thread about it so you can get help.
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Does it always start with the fins or...
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:57 PM   #500 
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A LOT of bettas in my local Meijer and Walmart are looking like this. They tend to get tumors afterwards. I don't believe it's graphite disease, but I've never bought a betta that was "infected" to observe it. Please watch him closely and update!
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