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Old 01-10-2012, 04:09 PM   #21 
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Most bettas come around pretty well with just nice clean, warm declorinated water. It's never a good idea to medicate when you don't know what you're medicating for. I think your guy is just trying to get used to his new home, and is a little scared, just my opinion though.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:22 PM   #22 
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I would stop the medication and I wouldn't do any 100% water changes at this point either...50% daily for 3 days and then if he seems perked up and eating by day 4-I would make 75% and then get on an every other day 50% for a week and if he responding and eating...get on the twice weekly schedule that I posted earlier......right now it will be a delicate time line...a balance of sorts to get his immune response back up...stress is one of the biggest issues at this point...one good thing is that Bettas don't create that much ammonia and you can safely get away with the water change schedule I gave on a short term basis....if he has a light...turn this off for now-offer food in 24h and if he doesn't eat be sure and remove it so it doesn't foul the water...if at any time he perks up and ask for food-feed him small amounts to start several times a day.....

Your doing a great job....keep us posted....
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:23 PM   #23 
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I'm also thinking he may need some time to adjust but his fins look kinda bad.
Where did U get him? Almost all my bettas had horrible ammonia levels (I tested them) from petco and walmart. He may just need some time in clean, warm water....??
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:39 PM   #24 
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I'm also thinking he may need some time to adjust but his fins look kinda bad.
Where did U get him? Almost all my bettas had horrible ammonia levels (I tested them) from petco and walmart. He may just need some time in clean, warm water....??
I got him from Petco. I'm wishing I hadn't, I didn't know anything when I went there but this is how he looked when I got him.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:41 PM   #25 
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I would stop the medication and I wouldn't do any 100% water changes at this point either...50% daily for 3 days and then if he seems perked up and eating by day 4-I would make 75% and then get on an every other day 50% for a week and if he responding and eating...get on the twice weekly schedule that I posted earlier......right now it will be a delicate time line...a balance of sorts to get his immune response back up...stress is one of the biggest issues at this point...one good thing is that Bettas don't create that much ammonia and you can safely get away with the water change schedule I gave on a short term basis....if he has a light...turn this off for now-offer food in 24h and if he doesn't eat be sure and remove it so it doesn't foul the water...if at any time he perks up and ask for food-feed him small amounts to start several times a day.....

Your doing a great job....keep us posted....
Ok, thank you for the advice so much. The water is blueish now from the medicine, just keep it that way? And do the 50% change? By the way, I found an old post of yours explaining precisely how to change the water, I appreciate that and I will be using it.
One last question: the water temperature is still rising, almost 78 now. I know that's still safe, but is this something where I keep the heater on constantly? Or if it gets too high I have to unplug it, etc? What is too high by the way?

Ok. I think that's all the questions for now!
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For a compromised Betta it is best to try and keep the temp in the 78-80F range-this is more due to bad bacteria that is normally in the water that tend to thrive best in warmer water and when the Bettas immune response is compromised-this allows the higher levels of bad bacteria to infect....

If this is a preset type heater-just monitor the water and if needed remove the top on the tank for better air circulation....you may need to unplug on occasion-just don't forget to plug it back in especially when you go to bed...

If it is adjustable-set it at 75-76F...
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:53 PM   #27 
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the blue is from the methylene blue.

I don't know about leaving malachite green in a tank for a prolonged period without a carbon filter.. it's toxic.. I don't use the stuff but I understand that you need to remove it completely (or the fish from treatment container when treatment is over..

What heater did you buy? I hope you bought one that shuts off automatically.. Putting a heater in a tank that has to be manually regulated is really not ideal unless you plan on never leaving the tank's side.. especially in such a small container.
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the blue is from the methylene blue.

I don't know about leaving malachite green in a tank for a prolonged period without a carbon filter.. it's toxic.. I don't use the stuff but I understand that you need to remove it completely (or the fish from treatment container when treatment is over..

What heater did you buy? I hope you bought one that shuts off automatically.. Putting a heater in a tank that has to be manually regulated is really not ideal unless you plan on never leaving the tank's side.. especially in such a small container.

So is your answer that I should, in fact, remove the water completely? I am getting one answer from Oldfishlady that says not to do a 100% change at the moment.

No, I did not buy a heater that shuts off automatically. I bought the least expensive one to see if this fish survives. I work from home, so checking periodically on it is not a problem right now. My husband just came home and I told him all about the things I've discovered today and our plan is to get a 5 gallon tank. We just can't afford it right now, today, right this second. That goes for the heater as well. When I bought this fish, I did so because I was told it was inexpensive, easy to care for, and would be a good pet for my 3 year old, so you must forgive me that I didn't go and buy a heater, much less an expensive one that shuts off on it's own.
My plan is to do everything I can to make sure this fish survives and if that means staying by the tanks side for the time being, that's ok. I'll do that.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:01 PM   #29 
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Oldfishlady: what do you say about changing out the blue? Should I do a 100% clean since the water has the blue medicine in it? (today was the very first day I did that medicine) Or should I do the 50% like you suggested?

Thanks again all of you for your help. I'm learning as I go.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:26 PM   #30 
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It should be fine with dilution of 50% water change over the next few days...

The preset heater is fine IMO/E...the tetra 50w preset at 78F are the type I use in my 1gal tank and have not had any issue...they generally heat the water within 5-8 degree of room temp more or less....

It gets easier....I promise.....your doing great.....
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