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Old 01-14-2012, 10:54 PM   #1 
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Exclamation please help

I cant tell for sure if its popeye or not because he has a horrible sore under his eye. Yesterday it was completely white under his eye but now it just looks hurty. Right when i noticed it yesterday i did a 100% water change and again today. He seems to be doing better today but he didnt eat anything. I also put him in an epsom salt bath for 15 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are the best pictures i could get.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:33 PM   #2 
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Hi mccullett and welcome to the forum. Your poor guy. Do you know how he got that sore under his eye?

First, if you could answer these questions that would really help us figure out treatment. In the meantime, put him back into 2 tsps of epsom salt per gallon. It's okay to leave him in this mixture for as long as necessary so don't remove him.

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:37 PM   #3 
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Hi, welcome to the forum.

I am sorry you and your betta is going through this. I am not an expert in treating diseases, so I will help what I can, there are lots of experts on this forum and I am sure someone will chime in later.

From the look of your photos, which you did a great job taking them, showed that he does have pop-eye which is also cloudy. I am not sure what the cause may be, but my first thought is he has septicemia which went untreated thus becoming this way. Are you able to get your hands on broad spectrum antibioctics? Kanamycin or Maracyn I & II ? For now, put him in a 1 gal quarantine tank with same temperature water and put in 1 teaspoon of Aquarium Salt (NOT epsom salt) with conditioner and stresscoat/stressguard if you have any. It's not a bath, so must leave betta in the solution after it's dissolved and mixed well. In the meantime, you need to go get antibiotics as soon as possible.

However, please also fill out this sticky as we can try to understand the exact cause of this wound and also the prevention of it in the future.

Good luck!

Oops....posting the same time Sakura did.

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Old 01-14-2012, 11:39 PM   #4 
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Not epsom? Are you thinking AQ for the wound, Earthworm?
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:53 PM   #5 
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I was just thinking what you wrote.....Yes...AQ for the wound (and the pop-eye) as I think that is even more life threatening?

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Old 01-14-2012, 11:57 PM   #6 
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Housing
What size is your tank? i moved him from a bowl to a medium sized kritter keeper
What temperature is your tank? i know its colder than it should be. Im going to look at heaters tomorrow
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Is your tank heated? i have a light but i dont think it heats it at all
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? none

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? top fin beta bits
How often do you feed your betta fish? 3 pellets 2 times a day but i usually skip one day a week

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? once a week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 100%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? top fin water conditioner and tetra algae control

Water Parameters: have not tested them
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? was a white spot yesterday and is now a sore. His eye is also a bit bigger than normal
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? he is usually very sassy and eats like a pig but he hasn't been eating as well and has not been as responsive as usual
When did you start noticing the symptoms? about a week ago he stopped eating normally but i only noticed his eye the other night.
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? yeah i put him in an epsom salt bath for 15 minutes with 1 tablespoon per gallon
Does your fish have any history of being ill? no
How old is your fish (approximately)? 2 years
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:04 AM   #7 
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Earthworm, right. I said epsom salt but I think you're right, it's more important to keep the wound from getting any more infected as the infection will just make the popeye worse.

Mccullett, definitely do what Earthworm suggests and put him in the 1 tsp Aquarium salt. This will help with the wound and keep it from getting more infected. While he's sick, you may want to change his water twice a week or even more if you can. The cleaner the water, the better it is for him.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:07 AM   #8 
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okay. Im going to the store to get the supplies tomorrow! (Also i just remembered, the heater broke just the other day. Could this have been a contributing factor? Thats why im looking at heaters)

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Old 01-15-2012, 12:15 AM   #9 
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okay. Im going to the store to get the supplies tomorrow!
Don't forget to get a thermometer too

Does your LFS stock good range of medicines? Oh...what size exactly is your kritter keeper?

Sakura, would you suggest mccullett to get meds (to standby) for the infection?
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:21 AM   #10 
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yeah they should. If they dont ill just go somewhere else. This is the first time i have ever treated a sick beta so im not really sure. Im pretty sure they have meracyn I & II though. I measured the kritter keeper and it was about 7x12 inches. I can put him back in his bowl if thats better for him though.
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