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Old 02-03-2012, 06:07 PM   #21 
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If you have a 30 gallon and a heater, why on earth are you not keeping your guys in it until you are ready to breed? You could easily fill the water up in the 30 gallon partway, put your betta jars in it, and heat the 30 gallon so that the water in the 30 also keeps the jar water warm. Or, you could temporarily divide the tank.

A 30 gal is a great start, but you are going to also need potentially hundreds of 1 gal containers for the males, more than one grow-out tank and a tank to do the actual breeding in, plus a way to heat all of those, PLUS filter the spawn tank and the grow-out tanks. Forgive me for going on about this, but that's a lot of stuff to buy. Surely a good start would be buying heaters for your current fish, as they can later be used in the breeding process. And since you'll need a ten gal tank as a spawn tank, why not get that now and temporarily divide it?
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:58 PM   #22 
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Not to harp as you got some great advice.. multiple large tanks, MANY jars, and a way to heat them all.. a 30 gallon is simply not enough.

Also, you mentioned a few friends/family, but what about the easily 100+ more you may have after giving out a few? If they are VTs, they won't sell all that well unfortunately, and most places won't buy them from someone who isn't properly set up and a verified breeder.. are you going to ship? Do you know how to properly ship and when to do so? The hundreds you may spend on shipping alone- boxes, bags, heating packs, cooling packs, foam, shipping, etc. Breeding is hundreds of dollars and can get into the thousands in time.

I definitely suggest spending the next few months you are going to need to condition those fish and save up the money and do more research- from the pictures you have posted, and your avatar, they aren't near breeding condition.
It really isn't fair to bring hundreds of babies into this world only to have to be culled (where you have to go and individually pick out babies and kill them) because of improper conditioning, breeding, set up.

I suggest dividing the 30 gallon that has a heater and putting what bettas you have in there and enjoying them for now :)

Edit: Breeding forum Here is the basics you will have to do for breeding. I also suggest getting a 10 or 20 long for the breeding tank, as the male and female have to go down to the bottom to collect the eggs, and a smaller tank would make it easier since a 30 you would have to put the water too low for a proper filter.
Betta babies aren't like guppy babies, or other live bearers.. bettas don't mate as frequently as they do, and they require much more careful care.

Wish you luck..

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Old 02-03-2012, 08:09 PM   #23 
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yes, all the money is being invested in the breeding. I love betta fish to death, and most people do not realize what people around me think of them. they think that they are mean fish. I have told a lot of people what they are really like, and now a lot of my friends and family around me are interstied in seeing what they are really like. I already have a 30gal tank for breeding, as well as a baby brine shrimp hatchery and a heater. thanks for your concerns.
It's all good, no need to explain yourself. Many betta hobbyists learned by trial and error, you will as well.

Good luck with your future breeding.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:11 PM   #24 
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Ok Everyone,
Here ia my solution:
- Take fish, make diveders and move into big tank.
- breed fish and promote healhy beggar and proper/joy care
- convinced mom to let me keep tank in my room (makin room and progress)
- watch fish live happily ever after.

Thank you for all of your concerns. Thanks for helping me figure my Berta situation out, as most people I have contacted have all told me that bettas are happy in small tanks with no heaters and do not need frequent water changes.... Stupid tropical fish store people... Grrrrr
Well, I have to go feed my (female) Sparky, who is now glaring gaily at me for food. Ta-ta!!
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:16 PM   #25 
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Oh, and I will be breeding half-moons, and I am advertising and have many ways and contacts for the babies. I have tried to think this out vey carefully, but obviously overlooked a few things... Sorry everyone now I feel so sad and sorry for my poor fish, I have been doing this all WRONG! *sob*
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:16 PM   #26 
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Ok Everyone,
Here ia my solution:
- Take fish, make diveders and move into big tank.
- breed fish and promote healhy beggar and proper/joy care
- convinced mom to let me keep tank in my room (makin room and progress)
- watch fish live happily ever after.
Sounds likea good plan to me. :) Good luck with your future betta endeavours! :)
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:26 PM   #27 
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Oh, and I will be breeding half-moons, and I am advertising and have many ways and contacts for the babies. I have tried to think this out vey carefully, but obviously overlooked a few things... Sorry everyone now I feel so sad and sorry for my poor fish, I have been doing this all WRONG! *sob*
its ok and we didnt mean to jump all over ya, just wanted to make sure you knew what you were gettin into, now go upgrade your setup and get some heat. good luck
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:29 PM   #28 
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Also keep in mind it's best to breed them when they are roughly 3-4 months of age- you can sometimes get them to breed older, but the risk of having to cull more babies is increased.

And I would get a halfmoon female for the male, as the VT strain may over ride the halfmoon.

Good luck!
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:43 PM   #29 
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3-4 months is a bit young. I'd wait until they were about 6 months old.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:41 PM   #30 
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Hmm.. I will have to do more research then.. I have heard and read that 3-4 months is the start of their breeding prime, and a lot of breeders tend to breed them around then.. I know OFL breeds her females at around 4 months of age, and I have heard many breeders say they are past their prime at 6 months. But I honestly don't know for fact, as each breeder has their own opinions, I just go by the majority of what I have seen.

Bettas can be bred all the way up to the end of their life. A lot of breeders say you get the better spawns when they are younger such as that.. but you can breed older. It's everyone's opinion and decision. I stand corrected when I said they "should" be bred around then.. I just believe it's better when they are a little younger, rather then older.
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