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Old 02-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #1 
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Bulging eyes/Red Blister (Picture included)

Hi guys,

My girlfriend's betta Percy is not doing so hot.

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:57 AM   #2 
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I attached the picture and as you can see, he has that blister/boil on his eye. Went to Petsmart last week and we described what he had (the eye was not as bad) and they said fin rot since his fins were frayed. We got Bettafix and Melafix. Does anyone know what is wrong and why he is not getting any better? Needless to say, we're both upset, we just want our little fishy to be OK again. PLEASE HELP!!

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:59 AM   #3 
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Links in case people don't scroll down for pictures:

http://tinypic.com/r/15fpx0w/5

http://tinypic.com/r/2rbyyaq/5

We've also gotten Seachem Prime to get rid of the ammonia in his water (since the level was too high). We've been giving him treatment for about a week now, and while he seems to be doing better, his eyes are worse.

We were kind of ignorant about all the little details that go into this, so we have gotten the Animal Planet Betta Care book and just want our little fella to be ok and I really don't want him to die. Any tips at all will be appreciated.

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Old 02-07-2012, 01:00 AM   #4 
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Sorry, I might be missing something, I am not seeing any pictures. Also please fill out the sticky below as detail as you can.....

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?

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Old 02-07-2012, 01:06 AM   #5 
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Another attempt at attaching the pictures, here's a link. Does this work?

http://tinypic.com/r/15fpx0w/5

http://tinypic.com/r/2rbyyaq/5
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:10 AM   #6 
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Sorry, I might be missing something, I am not seeing any pictures. Also please fill out the sticky below as detail as you can.....

Housing
What size is your tank? 5 gallon
What temperature is your tank? around 75 degrees
Does your tank have a filter? yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? I'm not sure. We just have a filter that looks a lot like this:http://source-www.petco.com/assets/p...905060806B.jpg

Is your tank heated? yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? he's all alone

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? originally pellets, switched to flakes
How often do you feed your betta fish? 2x a day, small meals

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change? weekly
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 20% (1 gallon)
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? Seacham Prime (Previously a Top Fin conditioner but were informed this is better)

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?
The only one I know is Ammonia, it was high before but ok now
Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? see attached picture. also had frayed fins.
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? he's way more docile and hangs out at bottom of tank, loss of appetite.
When did you start noticing the symptoms? about a week ago
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? Yes. Bettafix and Mellafix
Does your fish have any history of being ill? no
How old is your fish (approximately)? We just got him from Petsmart like 5 months ago

Cheers!

Thank you!!!
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:35 AM   #7 
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Thanks! I see the photos now. What amazing color!

I am sorry, this is out of my realm of knowledge, it is best if you PM OFL, Darkmoon, Sakura, Callistra etc for immediate help. From what I can see, looks like there may be internal infection in the head pushing the fluid out through the sockets toward the eyeballs. (aka pop-eyed) Since this is a symptom, we need to find the underlying cause of this problem. I don't think Bettafix or Melafix is going to fix this. Also as a general rule here, we usually do not recommend trying to treat our bettas with the "-fix" medicines due to its possible effect of labyrinth organ damage. My take on this is better be safe than sorry. Normally I would recommend epsom salt for pop-eyed to buy some time while figuring out the possible cause and treatment plan.

Questions regarding your sticky:
Did you attempt to cycle your tank? Do you also check for nitrites and nitrates? I think the water changing schedule needs to be reconsidered once we establish whether you want to cycle your tank or not. Hopefully the experts will come along and give you more advice on this. Is it possible to raise the temp to at least 78F? In the meantime I will do some research on this. Hopefully this will also bump your post up, except now it's quiet time in the west.

Cheers!

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:59 AM   #8 
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You will probably need to treat him with epsom salt. That is generally prescribed for pop eye. I must say... that looks absolutely frightening! IT is quite possible he could loose eyesight or even the eye(s). I won't suggest doing anything for now, but as earthworm suggested, contact Oldfishlady (I suspect she will be on before Sakura).
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:28 AM   #9 
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Thanks! I see the photos now. What amazing color! .

Questions regarding your sticky:
Did you attempt to cycle your tank?

I don't know what this means. We've taken all the water out and put new water in the tank.

Do you also check for nitrites and nitrates?

We don't have anything that can check for this but will be taking the water to get tested at Petsmart

I think the water changing schedule needs to be reconsidered once we
establish whether you want to cycle your tank or not.

We're switching to 100% water change every day in order to get him ok.

Hopefully the experts will come along and give you more advice on this. Is it possible to raise the temp to at least 78F?

Yes, it's adjustable. Is 78F the perfect one or something else? I can adjust it if need be.

In the meantime I will do some research on this. Hopefully this will also bump your post up, except now it's quiet time in the west.

Cheers!
Thank you very much for your help!
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You will probably need to treat him with epsom salt. That is generally prescribed for pop eye. I must say... that looks absolutely frightening! IT is quite possible he could loose eyesight or even the eye(s). I won't suggest doing anything for now, but as earthworm suggested, contact Oldfishlady (I suspect she will be on before Sakura).
Is there a preferred brand of epsom salt? And do you know how much, I've heard anywhere from 1 to 3 teaspoons per gallon. We're going to be putting him in a 1 gallon tank until he's better.
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