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Old 02-07-2012, 09:15 AM   #11 
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Ok. If you are changing water 100%, that means you did not attempt to cycle your tank. Cycling just means you will be depending on your filter, fish, waste, good bacterial, live plants if any to help keep the water chemistry balanced and only do intermittent partial water changes (amount determined by the water parameters you get) etc, so that you don't have to change 100% every week.

Ok. Move him to a 1 gallon hospital tank for now for ease of water change etc. Something smaller may be better if you need to float the container in his tank that has the heater on it. Yes, for now just keep the temp at around 78-79.

Start on the epsom salt immediately. Doesn't matter what brand, make sure it's unscented and no color added. Should be able to find it at grocery store or pharmacy. For now, add 1 tsp of ES to 1 gal of preconditioned same temp water, dissolve, then leave your betta in there. At 12 hour, make it to 2 tsp/gal dosage and by 24 hour, should have a total of 3 tsp ES/1 gal dosage for the sake of slowly acclimating him to the max dose.

Hopefully the experts will come along soon to give advice. I am sorry I am not much help. I still suggest PM OFL or Sakura soon. Do you have easy access to antibiotics at your LFS near by? If you are going to buy epsom salt, I think it is best to have an idea if your LFS stock any of the meds: API Tetracycline, API Fungus Cure, API General Cure, API Triple Sulfa, OR Mardel’s Maracyn or Seachem Kanaplex so you will know where to go if medication is required.

Good luck and keep us posted!
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:33 AM   #12 
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I would get him in a small QT that can be floated in the heated tank to maintain temp in the 77-78F range and start him on Epsom salt (not aquarium salt) tannins and water changes for 14-20 days.....

Premix some treatment water in a 1gal jug of dechlorinated water-Add Epsom salt 3tsp/gal and a tannin source if you have one-either IAL or dried Oak leaf-let this water steep for 30min and use for 25% water changes every 15min for 1hour today-he needs to stay in this water in the QT for the duration of the treatment-be sure and attach the QT to the side of the heated tank so it doesn't sink...

Tomorrow start 50% daily water changes with this premixed treatment water-this water should look darker today as the tannins release.....get on a schedule of 3 days 50% with 1-100% on day 4-repeat this water change schedule with the treatment water for 14-20 days....

It can take 7-10 days to see improvement in the edema of the eye and since it was one eye...correct....it was most likely an injury and a secondary infection has set in

Nutrition is really important-offer food daily and if you have access to mosquito larva offer some rinsed several times a day

Good luck and keep us posted.....
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:49 AM   #13 
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I would get him in a small QT that can be floated in the heated tank to maintain temp in the 77-78F range and start him on Epsom salt (not aquarium salt) tannins and water changes for 14-20 days.....

Premix some treatment water in a 1gal jug of dechlorinated water-Add Epsom salt 3tsp/gal and a tannin source if you have one-either IAL or dried Oak leaf-let this water steep for 30min and use for 25% water changes every 15min for 1hour today-he needs to stay in this water in the QT for the duration of the treatment-be sure and attach the QT to the side of the heated tank so it doesn't sink...

Tomorrow start 50% daily water changes with this premixed treatment water-this water should look darker today as the tannins release.....get on a schedule of 3 days 50% with 1-100% on day 4-repeat this water change schedule with the treatment water for 14-20 days....

It can take 7-10 days to see improvement in the edema of the eye and since it was one eye...correct....it was most likely an injury and a secondary infection has set in

Nutrition is really important-offer food daily and if you have access to mosquito larva offer some rinsed several times a day

Good luck and keep us posted.....
It's actually both eyes, my gf just took a picture from the same side twice since he was facing her. Where can I get the IAL? Will my grocery store have it? And we have two 1 gallon tanks (my gf just bought the 2nd one), so we were going to alternate between the 2 gallons each day to keep him healthy. Is this a bad idea?

Thank you for your advice!
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:54 AM   #14 
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If you bought him in one of those small temporary cups with a lid-these work great for a QT and it is small enough to float/attached in a heated tank to maintain temp...

IAL or Indian almond leaf-usually you have to order this online

I use Oak leaf from my Oak trees in my yard....if you have access to pesticide free Oak trees-gather 18-20 naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf-crush and add to the premixed jug of dechlorinated with and Epsom salt
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:12 AM   #15 
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If you bought him in one of those small temporary cups with a lid-these work great for a QT and it is small enough to float/attached in a heated tank to maintain temp...

IAL or Indian almond leaf-usually you have to order this online

I use Oak leaf from my Oak trees in my yard....if you have access to pesticide free Oak trees-gather 18-20 naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf-crush and add to the premixed jug of dechlorinated with and Epsom salt
Do you have a preferred website? I'll buy the IAL but want to make sure it's the good stuff lol.

As for the cycling, do I completely empty out the water and then replace it? I just don't want to stress the little guy and want to make sure I am following your instructions correctly.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:14 AM   #16 
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I don't use IAL but I want to say most member go to e-bay....

You don't need to worry about cycling while he is in QT for treatment
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:22 AM   #17 
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Ok I found a seller on e-bay with great reviews for the IAL leaves. Do you know how many I should get? 50? 100?

sorry for bothering you so much lol.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:24 AM   #18 
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No worries.....

The number is up to you.....depending on how many Bettas you have, what your long term plans are...etc.....the IAL will last a long time on the shelf as long as they don't get wet.....
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:28 AM   #19 
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We just have the one little guy, I'll get the 50 since I think it will be more than enough to last while he heals?

After that I can order more, I just wanna get him enough to help him heal at first.

Thank you again for your help, and thank you to earthworm88, you have both been a great help!!
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:50 AM   #20 
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You are in great hand now, holden147. Sorry I haven't been able to help much. Hope your little guy will have a speedy recover.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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