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Old 02-15-2012, 12:57 PM   #1 
LadyLucy
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Please help-Swim Bladder Disorder

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I have a 6 month old male betta that lives in a 5 gallon heated tank with no filter. I have nursed him back to health when I first got him as he had clamp. Has seemed fine since. I admit, I am an overfeeder but I think when I was on holidays his "caretakers" went overboard. I noticed at first that when he swims and stops he was listing towards one side. Then I noticed that he used to be able to just sit at the top of the tank without support of plants, etc. and now he sinks. You can tell that he is having difficulty swimming up and either rests at the bottom or near the top in the leaves and plants. I read up on several forums and it appears he has swim bladder disorder. Last time I fed him (he will only eat freeze dried blood worms) was Thursday last week, did not feed him Friday, fed him a small amount of frozen (thawed) pea on Saturday, nothing on Sunday and a small amount of pea on Monday. I have not fed him anything since. He still swims (though he gets tired easily) and flares, but appears to not have had any bowel movements during this time and looks like he may be pretty full. Please help! I don't know what to do next.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:14 PM   #2 
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Copy/paste this info and add to your thread...also a pic would help


Housing

What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:47 PM   #3 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
5 gallon

What temperature is your tank?
78 degrees

Does your tank have a filter?
No

Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
No

Is your tank heated?
Yes

What tank mates does your betta fish live with?
None

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
Tetra freeze dried blood worms

How often do you feed your betta fish?
Every morning a small scoop and a little before I leave work. He fasts at least 1 day a week. I am an overfeeder!

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
Every week

What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
about 20-40%

What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?
Stress Coat+ fish and tap water conditioner

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?
I don't test
Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
Just a bloated belly, no discolouration that I can see

How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
sinks and cannot float at the top without assitance from plants

When did you start noticing the symptoms?
About 2 weeks ago I noticed the listing to one side when he stopped swimming, about a week with the difficulty swimming. I have not seen a bowel movement at the botton of the tank for this week at least, I can't remember last week.

Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Yes. Last time I fed him (he will only eat freeze dried blood worms) was Thursday last week, did not feed him Friday, fed him a small amount of frozen (thawed) pea on Saturday, nothing on Sunday and a small amount of pea on Monday. I also read on a post from the forum creator to try daphinia which I gave him a small amount this afternoon.

Does your fish have any history of being ill?
He had clamp within the first few days of getting him, I removed the filter and used BettaFix for 2 weeks and he has been fine since.

How old is your fish (approximately)?
I got him from a pet store in August so I have had him just over 6 months

The post won't let me add a picture, says invalid file. His skin does not look like a pinecone so I have ruled out dropsy if this helps.

Last edited by LadyLucy; 02-15-2012 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Forgot picture
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:08 AM   #4 
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Sounds like he may be having some water quality and nutrition issues that have lead to either inflamed, impacted duct....

I would go ahead and Qt him in a small container and float in the heated tank to maintain 77-78F temp-be sure and attach it so it doesn't sink-Cover the top with plastic veggie wrap to retain heat/humidity for the labyrinth organ.

Premix some treatment water in a 1gal jug of dechlorinated water-Add Epsom salt (Not aquarium salt) 3tsp/gal and a tannin source if you have one-either IAL or dried Oak leaf-let this steep for 30min and use this premixed Tx water for 25% water changes every 15min for 1hour today-he needs to stay in the QT in the Tx water for the duration of the treatment period....

Tomorrow start 50% water changes with the Tx water every day for 3 days-On day 4 make 100%-repeat this schedule for 14 days....

On day 12 and 13-make a 50% water change on the 5gal-

On day 12-make 25% water change on the QT with the Betta using fresh dechlorinated like temp water for 2 days-then start re-acclimating him back to the tank water by adding small amount of tank water to the Qt over 10-15min-dump half the QT water out and replace with tank water-be sure and dump the QT water down the drain on in a potted house plant-not in the tank...

Once you get him back in his tank after the 14 day treatment-get on a regular schedule of 50% with vacuum weekly and 100% monthly on the unfiltered 5gal-unless it has live plants.....

Nutrition-you are going to have to get him off the freeze dried food-I would get a good quality varied diet-pellets of some type will work-hold all food for 3 days-then offer the pellets-if he refuses-remove them and try again-he should start to eat in time-You can roll/lace the pellets in fresh crushed garlic juice and sometimes this will help stimulate appetite.....
Once he start eating the pellets-offer the FD foods as a treat a couple of times a week....
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