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Old 02-21-2012, 10:18 PM   #1 
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Exclamation ick question

so my female has had a bad case of ick for about 3 weeks now, shes quarantined, iv increased the temp, iv tried salt and ick medication but its still bad and shes really lethargic now,

any tips?
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:48 AM   #2 
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What medication did you use?
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:36 PM   #3 
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:57 PM   #4 
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Coppersafe is a really good medication for ich, especially in a planted aquarium.

Can you type out exactly what all you've done?

Temperature should be set to 86 degrees F (make sure you have a thermometer, don't trust the dial on the heater itself).

Dose the Coppersafe, and remove the carbon from your filter (if any).

Leave for 1 week.

If you are under 5 gallons and water changes are required since you have no cycle, be sure to dose the coppersafe in the new water.

I've used this in a 10 gallon planted aquarium, the betta had ~30 spots to start, after day one it was down to ~3 spots, and on day 2 they were all gone. It should work pretty quickly provided you have the temperature up to 86 to speed up the life cycle of ich.

You should also know that ich will have infected the entire tank, so quarantine dosen't often serve much of a purpose as the main tank will be infected too and need treated. The only advantage to quarantine is you can jack the main tanks temp up over 90 degrees for a week which will outright kill ich on its own.

Inverts should be quarantined (again in a heated tank) because they can not tolerate copper based medications. Ich needs a host fish to survive. So usually its best to remove inverts, and treat the tank and fish in the main tank.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:22 PM   #5 
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ok sounds close to what i did but didnt have my temp up that high, ill adjust it now
i have plants and driftwood in the tank, how do i make sure they are free of ick too?
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:34 PM   #6 
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The same tank as the betta? Or is the tank now empty of fish?

If there are no fish, just raise the temperature to the high 80's and let it sit for a week, consider going to 90 but keep an eye on the plants at that temp.

The higher the temp, the faster the cycle. At 86 it has been shown that ich can no longer reproduce, and at 90 they die. 86 is not too high for a betta, they are actually a warmer water fish and breeding is often easier in the low to mid 80's.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:49 PM   #7 
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Ok thank you,
and my my betta thanks you too
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:22 PM   #8 
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Are you sure that's ich? Ich are white spots, and I don't see any in that picture you posted.

Are those dark spots wounds, or scales sticking out kind of like a pine cone?

This is Ich:

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:28 PM   #9 
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I do not see any ich on your fish.. I just see some variation in color that looks totally normal to me..

If your fish does have the above but we're just missing it.. You need to acclimate your fish very slowly to the higher temp and monitor for signs of stress. Raising to 82 is probably enough, but if you can get it to 86 and she acts fine then go for it.. raise no more than a degree or two every hour.

Along with this treat with 1 tsp per gallon aquarium salt (predissolved) for up to 10 days. This should kill any ich.

How long was she in the copper safe and have you since made water changes to remove the meds?

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Old 02-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #10 
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^^ thats an old picture, before she got ick
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